Has Bin Laden reached Hitler's status in infamy?

[richardhutnik]

enditall727 said:

richardhutnik said:

ps3-sales! said:
Not even close. As horrible as the things Ben Laden has done, his main reason I don't think, is because of how evil he is. It's because that's just something that radical muslims believe in.

Hitler wanted to be evil. He wanted all the power he could get and wanted to destroy an entire race of inferior humans.

This is going to lead to discussions on good and evil, which will likely blow this thread out to 100+ pages if uncontained.  The thing about Hitler is that he believe he led a just crusade to save his people from destruction, and what he did was meant to be for the good of them.  I remember reading one alternate history story where Hitler went up against Gandhi, and Gandhi tried to do the peaceful resistance, and it did not end well.  And it is more complicated than what you made it out to be in that one line.  And in that is the discussion of what is real evil and whatnot.   

But, in regards to this thread, I doubt that Bin Laden is ever going to get an equivalent of Godwin's Law, the way Hitler does.

Damn!

i was about to do exactly what you described lol

i was about to go in on the whole good vs evil thing

Well, when discussing Hitler, Godwin's Law come up and Hitler is seen as a universal evil, which is what Godwin's Law touches on.   The thing is that this thread will then go all over, also become yet another thread as people take a shot at Christianity and atheism.  A basic rule I have here is that you can tell what someone is opposed to, if they try to connect Hitler wth it.

Anyhow, it might be worth discussing good vs evil, whatever that means.  Those two terms are thrown around by people, to allow them to do presumptive conversing without really actually discussing meaning.  Such terms are used in rhetoric and during persuasion to get masses to go one way or another.  What is interesting to think of is how much evil is done in the name of a "just crusader".  Individuals who go gunning down a bunch of people, then take themselves out, were on such a crusade and saw themselves as evil.  Heck, almost serial type shootings with specific targets are done by people who thought they were on a just crusade.  This goes for Belik (whatever his name is, but the shooter in Europe who wrote the supremacist manifesto), to others also.  Even the Unibomber saw himself on a just cause.  Individuals who right manifestos usually do.