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dsgrue3 said:
timmah said:
pezus said:
timmah said:
pezus said:
This should count as false advertising imo. Probably will in Europe in due time.

That would mean every single computer ever sold is 'false advertising', according to your definition. If I buy a PC with a 500GB hard drive you start off with about 465GB useable, about 25GB is already taken up by OS and bundled apps, and about 12-16GB is taken up by recovery and utility partitions. The only difference here is initial hard disk size. Space taken up by file system overhead, OS, apps, utility & recovery partitions is about 41GB. 64GB-41GB = 23GB. On a 500GB (465GB useable) the free space would be about 424GB free space out of the box... false advertising? Nope.

That is not true. It's easy to buy a PC without an OS. In fact, I don't think I've ever bought a PC with an OS. You can choose to get Windows, or you can choose not to. This on the other hand, advertises something and then when I open it up it gives me ~35% of what they advertised. It does so because it forces the OS on you. You have no choice. Even if I bought a PC with an OS, the space lost wouldn't amount to much relative space (430/500 = not a big difference).

LOL! Why the hell would MICROSOFT sell a PC without an OS preinstalled?? Again, every PC sold with Windows (or any OS) already on it loses a similar amount of disk space. That's across the board.

Also, you can remove the utility partitions and regain 12-16GB if you want. Anybody that buys a computer that is advertised to come with an OS preinstalled and expects to have 100% of the advertised DISK CAPACITY free out of the box (this is not advertised free space, but raw capacity mind you) doesn't know anything about computers. Their advertising states that Windows is preinstalled, it is widely known that computers with Windows preinstalled lose about 40GB of free space, therefore it is not in any way false advertising.

Subway is being sued for falsely advertising foot long subs, which did not measure to 12". This is far worse.

Wow, you really don't get it. They're not advertising free space, they're advertising raw capacity. This is the industry standard for how hard disk space is measured and advertised across the entire industry. This line of thinking has been tried before in lawsuits against PC manufacturers and gotten nowhere.