Soriku said:
enditall727 said:
In the home console space, the japanese market pretty much thrives on the Sony platforms
notice how the japanese market pretty much sunk as soon as the PS3 came to the scene. The majority in japan tends to buy everything on the PlayStation. almost every known japanese game has sold less than it normally would on PlayStation 3 this gen(even though they all still sold the most on ps3 compared to other versions). Nintendo had the Japanese market on lock with the Wii but the games just didn't sell on it for some reason besides the Marios and what not(or atleast they would have sold more on ps3)
the survival of the japanese home console market pretty much depends on Sony for the most part. If Sony does well then the japanese market does well but if Sony doesn't do well then the japanese market wont do well
The market didn't "BOOM" like it was supposed to when PS3 arrived. The price of the ps3 kept everybody away from it. If the people of the japanese market don't buy the console then who is going to buy the games?
the 1st impression is a killer so of course when games came out on the expensive ass console the people didn't buy them. which then gave devs the impression that something was wrong. They stopped making games like they used to because of this. the devs who still made jrpgs all jumped to the handhelds just to BARELY SURVIVE because of Sony and their decision to bid theirselves out with the console price
Wii U sold like 400k 1st week in japan and i read that ps2 surprisingly sold A LOT more than that when it came out at it's $299 price point and it was also selling at a good pace throughout it's years. The PS3 launched at $599 and sold a little over 80k it's 1st week.
at this point, the home console part of the japanese market can boom again BUT it all depends on what Sony does this generation with the PS4.
it is simple really. all they have to do is price the PS4 at $399. the market will thrive again if Sony plays their cards right. The japanese devs wont be scared to make games for the PS4. They won't have to worry about their games not selling well because the PS4 will be a lot cheaper than what PS3 launched at so the REAL gamers and younger crowd can get their hands on a PS4 more easily FROM JUMP! They can also buy their games early on. devs will be able to take more risks
the absence of the Japanese market this gen was Sonys fault
it all depends on Sony
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The console market started slow in Japan (although the Wii did pretty well out of the gate) but at this point in time the PS3 has enough games for people in the JP market to buy it, and an active enough userbase for most games to do well. However, the PS3 is no PS2. The 'problem' is that Japan has reeeeeeeally moved on to handhelds. DS and PSP were very healthy, and although the Vita is doing badly now the 3DS is filling in the shoes of the DS and PSP. Combined with that is the fact that JP publishers have fell behind in HD development. SE still doesn't have Versus out in 6+ years and has really fell from their status in their PS1/PS2 days.
I think the issue is far bigger than just "Sony priced the PS3 too high." That may have been an issue initially but could not have wrecked the JP console market up to this point.
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they went and stayed on the handhelds because of the ps3
everything usually sells on the PS home consoles but they didn't with PS3 so what other choice did they have? The PlayStations are the consoles that the japanese devs fall back on if you know what i mean. PS3 was too high though. PS3 is no PS2 because the PS2 launched at $299 and PS3 launched at $599. PS3 could have been just as good as the PS2 but it was just too high priced. The devs made all their games on the handhelds so it was too late when Sony finally got down to a reasonable price years later.
the EXACT issue is ps3 being priced too high because everything you could say that went wrong will all eventually come back to the ps3 costing too damn much
i GUARANTEE the japanese market will do a lot better during the 8th gen if Sony launches the PS4 at $399. It doesn't even matter what the other companies do
what did all these devs say when all these PlayStation known games went multiplat? they were saying sh!t like they want to maximise sales and what not right? now why would they say that? I bet anything that you think of will eventually be brought back to the ps3's high ass price
Sony needs to be atleast remotely affordable($399) from the beginning this time around mainly for the sake of japan
I think Square was going to stumble regardless though
