Branko2166 said:
DanneSandin said:
goopy20 said:
DanneSandin said:
goopy20 said:
Wow that is one wall of text but I stopped reading after the first line. "Sony's console won't be a huge leap because they can't afford it..." This whole theory is based on that assumption and it makes no sense. Sony might be in a bad spot but the ps3 is still one of it's few products that is going very well, outselling the Xbox and Wii-U combined, for months in a row now. So instead of thinking Sony will cut corners with the ps4, you can also asume they are going all out to make sure it's most important cashcow will stay on top.
The Wii-U never had a chance because it's not competing with the ps4/ Xbox720, it's competing with the current gen and has no visual edge over the 7 year old consoles that were already on the market. Next gen graphics will obviously take a leap over the ps3 and Xbox720 because if it doesn't, then why the hell would MS and Sony spend a fortune building those things? The only chance Nintendo has is by showing that the tabet controller really is the best gameplay invention since the mouse and keyboard, and personally i just don't see that happening.
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The PS3 certainly is not a cash cow. In fact, it's lost tons of money over the years, and it's not until fairly recently it has started to make money. But in the long run it will have lost most of the money PS2 managed to gain. And it's around this point I base my whole theory; in the end, PS3 has lost Sony money, and I don't think they want or can allow that again.
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Ok for argument sake, lets say your right. Then why would sony and ms launch a new console if it's pretty much equal in hardware to what they got on the market already?
Even if their consoles aren't cutting edge by next year standards, they will still make the Wii-U look like a SNES in comparison. Not because these companies have more money to throw around, but because Nintendo decided to poor half their console production budget in a tablet controller that's not getting support from 3rd party studio's.
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Well, one reason for launching new consoles this year could be the failing console sales...
I'm not saying that they'll be on par with Wii U; it's almost certain that they'll be more powerful. The question is just how much more powerful. Will we see a repetition of the Wii vs PS360? I doubt it. I think the difference will be more aching to a PS2 vs Xbox situation (Or in the worst case scenario; Dreamcast vs Xbox).
But you are right, it's starting to look like as if Wii U might miss most of the 3rd party games this gen as well, unless games are quite scalable this time around (which they seem to be; UE4 is supposed to be working on smartphones as well as high end PC's)...
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Not saying this is set in stone however according to Anandtech's analysis the Wii U's memory bandwidth is 12.8 GB/s which is in fact lower than both the PS3 and the 360. Its GPU is way more powerful but unfortunately the system appears to be bottlenecked by the processor and the low memory bandwidth so it will make it extremely difficult to take advantage of the GPU.
According to the latest rumours the PS4/Orbis unified memory bandwidth is 176GB/s which in theory is more than 10x the bandwidth of the Wii U. For the sake of Nintendo gamers I hope the difference isn't this vast however it's not looking too good at the moment.
Having said all that this doesn't mean that the Wii U won't be a great console only that it will make it tough to attain 3rd party support and by extension unless they corner the casual market like they did with the Wii then it will make it near impossible for them to come out on top again.
Here are some links.
http://gamingbolt.com/wii-u-ram-is-43-slower-than-ps3360-ram#A2fumC5omvzEqRjR.99
http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-orbis-unveiled/
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Well, I'm no tech head, so I'll just have to trust you. This would of course be a problem, but not as severe as all the problems Wii had... if you'd like some better answers I suggest you check out superchunk's next gen comparison thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=136756&page=1#
They know a whole great deal more about this sort of thing than I do...
