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gergroy on 26 January 2013
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joeorc said:
gergroy said

consoles sells have a lot to do with momentum.  If they delay that long Sony would lose all that momentum, and then when they released the ps4 would probably have sales and software support comparable to the vita now.  

Basically, it doesn't make sense.  The profit in video games is mostly from software sells and what you describe would result in significantly less software sells in a the long run.  

What sony needs to do if they are worried about profit is make a new system that is actually profitable.  They should cut back on specs and focus on innovation like nintendo has done.   Even microsoft looks to be focusing more on innovation next gen with stuff like illumiroom and virtual reality being the supposed priority of the nextbox.  

You don't cling to a sinking ship trying to get as much distance out of it as you can, you abandon ship and find a new ship to get you where you need to go...

"consoles sells have a lot to do with momentum.  "

1. How much  momentum Would Sony Loose when they are Already Lower in sales  momentum. ALREADY!

you keep saying that Sony   

"The profit in video games is mostly from software sells and what you describe would result in significantly less software sells in a the long run.  "

2. what other iP aside from gran turismo  that Sony owns that sales like that one iP? the Point is if they are worried about making a Profit, they can with a reduced footprint in trying to directly compete with Nintendo and Microsoft at this point, because right now Sony is already seen by many to not really competeing with them anyway. or not putting up a good amount of competition. Say for instance Sony wait's until 2016 what would they loose , than they have already lost already? More Market share? How much? all of it?

It comes down to the point is do you want the opponents to determine when you release something or do you want the Consumer's to decide!

Kaz just stated why go first with an announcement?

for all we know, he could be waiting and than realease the PS3 before the next xbox, or let's say he wait's. Microsoft releases the next box, will developer's up and leave the xbox360 high and dry? How about the consumer's who have an xbox360 will 343 studios give the xbox360 it's own Halo exclusive or a spin off?

what happens if Halo for the xbox360 is a spin off and the next xbox get's the exclusive, what than, even better yet while that happens Sony keep's makeing exclusives for the PS3. While the Sony 1st party development studios still make even more PSN exclusives and Playstation Home exclusive content!

3. People seem to think that Playstation Home has no bearing on usage of the PS3 but everytime i log into Home, many many people are playing game's using that part of the service with purchase for premium content.

its a very healthy thriving community.

4. Sony could may bundle the PSVita with the PS3 to new consumer's with bundled add in's while updating the firmware with new aplications for use. remember even though the ram is low, there is network services and very fast streaming processor's inside each and every PS3. combined with a PSVita as an extension into the mobile section + the Xperia and Playstion Mobile platform. they could very well extend low cost high return profit's for years to come.

1. Sony has the lowest total sales, yes, but they have the momentum right now as they consistently lead week after week in global sales.  So, yes, Sony has some momentum right now.

2. You are only looking at first party, Sony makes money off of all software sold on their systems.  You need to look at total software sells.  Basically, the strategy being debated here is the kind of strategy that would turn off third party support, or in other words the vast majority of software sells on the console.  

3. Not sure what home has to do with anything, but honestly it is completely irrelevant.  It is not a feature Sony even markets or talks about anymore.  It's basically the playstation version of second life.  

4. So in a thread talking about maintaining profitability, you suggest bundling the vita with the ps3?  I'm sure including a device that is sold at a loss and has little consumer interest would absolutely drive consumer interest and profit...