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disolitude, great link. I loved their STFU formula for electricity costs. Hilarious. I think AMD's main weaknesses for FX8350 lie in perception and in honesty there are some popular titles that are only dual-core threaded (Bethesda games like Skyrim, or Blizzard games like Starcraft 2, Diablo 3 and WOW). If more games were multi-threaded properly like BF3 or Arma II series, then FX8350 would be a bargain for $199 (actually 8320 even more so at $169). For now there there are certain cases where the performance of FX8350 isn't optimal but hopefully with PS4/720 consoles, more and more games will shift to being threaded for 4 cores and beyond. Seems like AMD bet that software would become more highly multi-threaded a lot earlier than it actually will be. Bulldozer/Vishera were great in theory IF software was highly threaded today, but unfortunately due to the long tail-end of the PS360 generation and so many PC console ports being shoddy/only scale with 2-3 cores, FX8350 often can't show its true potential.

Granted someone spending $800-1000 on GTX680/7970GE CF is probably not going to flinch at the $125 premium that i7 3770K has over the 8350 but someone getting just 1 single GPU like a GTX670 shouldn't be calling AMD chips "completely crap", etc. It's overblown, that's for sure unless you spend a 90% of your time playing WOW, SC2, Skyrim, etc.