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BlueFalcon said:
dahuman said:
What I meant is the first gen FX Bulldozers, Piledriver is a little better so I have one coming in today(8350) via UPS with a new mobo to upgrade my personal server with, and Steamroller should be even better. The general concern is that AMD CPUs currently draws a lot more power even at lower clock rates, and if they are using the first gen Bulldozer then it'd really make me want to cry on a power draw/performance ratio and I hope their final product will be the later versions at least so they can get more performance per watt.

1. PS3 had a power draw of 195-240W when it first launched, and its idle power draw was incredibly wasteful:

http://www.gamespot.com/features/green-gaming-playstation-3-6303944/

They could use the FX8300 (95W TDP) and a slightly neutured HD7970M (75-100W), then you can end up very near original PS3's power consumption. I don't think that would be a problem since the idle power consumption will actually be far better this round and load would be similar.

2. They could do a custom BIOS for flexibility. Since most games don't scale beyond 4 threads, they could set up the BIOS so that the 4 cores clock to 3.6-4.0ghz when the other 4 are not in use. If all 8 cores / 4 modules are utilized, the CPU could be capped at 2.6-2.8ghz. Either one of those options (4 Bulldozer/Vishera cores at 3.6ghz+ or 8 of those at 2.6-2.8ghz) would be way faster than 8 Jaguar cores clocked at 1.6ghz. 

My bigger problem with this rumor is not Bulldozer vs. Piledriver details but other things. First, they have 2.2GB of GDDR5 which is not even logically possible unless there is 2048 MB of GDDR5 and some added eDRAM/eSRAM or special cache for the GPU? Second, based on the rumored specs of PS4 vs. 720, it looks like we are comparing a Bulldozer 8 core with HD7970M 2GB GDDR5 (PS4) to an 8-core Jaguar with HD7770Ghz DDR3 (Xbox 720). The difference between those 2 consoles in terms of power is a generational leap apart, at least 2-3x the power difference, especially on the CPU side. How could Sony put so much more powerful hardware and still stay under $600? Why would MS go with such less powerful parts if much faster parts were barely more expensive? On these spec differences alone, the consoles would not even be remotely comparable in terms of generational processing power. That doesn't make any sense to me if they are both going to be priced at $350-450, especially since we know Sony cannot afford to lose hundreds of dollars on the console like they did with PS4 given their financial situation. 

When it comes to keeping the price equal with a much stronger HW on PS4, maybe the difference is in the fact that MS is (or at least was) rummoured to include Kinect 2 together with the next X-box? We'd get a Kinect vs. better specs for the same price. I know which one I'd go for... There is not a single Kinect game I'm interested in.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.