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[Scisca]

mai said:

Scisca said:.

- Mass murder of Soviet POWs in death camps in 1920s;

Why exactly Soviets would need to create this story if Katyn wasn't never recognized until 1992? None of the documents even surfaced until 2004. Is G.Sanford a communist too? He recognized tha fact. Should I go in denial over Katyn, because there's surely a lot of missing parts including "lost" documents?  People died of mistreatment, that was your responsibility. Take it for once.

- Polish occupation of Czechoslovakia in 1938;

Sure I imagining this, Polish tanks in Teschen Silesia, an industrial region that was a reson behind the conflict of Poland and Czechoslovakia in 1918-20. You did it with Nazis, as they were your allies at the time. Only Nazis are blamed fot this.

 

- Mass murder of Jews during WW2 (Nazis were scapegoats for this, which is not entirely true).

Armia Krajowa and various other collaborationists organizations in Poland have cooperated with Nazis in muss murders of Jews, one of the most unprecedent help Nazis received btw. Hundreds of thousands ethnic Polish served in Wermacht and SS. Again only Nazis were blamed for this.

BTW you're reported for insult.

@Mnementh

^See? Typical  human reaction: " Everyone else is bad, we're good. There's always somebody else to blame" :D

Nah, this is not this type of a reaction. You are simply talking BS.

To the POWs - I showed you proof that there was no such thing. That 3 times more Polish POWs died in your camps during that war, which you started in the first place and you still think you've got something? Seriously? What you thought was a lie, deal with it. We weren't murdering POWs, if anyone has to appologise, you should appologise us yet again, since you were easily worse in every aspect. Oh, and now you say mistreatment? That is a difference from mass-murder, isn't it? So now go on reading about what the world looked like in 1920s and maybe you'll see, that we were not to blame. We couldn't do more, we acted in a way normal at the time. I'm happy you're learning.

To Czechoslovakia - yeah, we had a conflict (not a military one!) in 1918 and they took it from us. Face the facts - that area was populated mainly by Poles (let me repeat  - 125k Poles vs. 30k Czechs), their country just lost independence to a country hostile to Poland, so we decided to move in and protect our people. I call that being responsible for your people and would do the same thing. You are also lying saying that we did this with the Germans. It's a historical fact that we did this on our own, there are documents for it. There was no cooperation, at this point in history we weren't doing a thing together with Germany. The photo with tanks is nice, but you think it proves something for you? Cause it doesn't. We sent them to manifest the fact, that we take control of this region, cause you know - the Germans were just taking over this country and they weren't the ones that would just accept a letter from us saying that we take this part of Czechoslovakia and say: "ok, it's yours". These tanks aren't fighting, but are on a parade. Nobody was hurt during this process, no shots were fired since our army was pretty much welcomed as heroes, protecting the people from the Nazis. Bear with it. The only country that lost anything because of this was Germany, since they just took over Czechoslovakia.

Stop telling lies, ok? Armia Krajowa was an undergrund organisation fighting with the Germans at first and fiercely fighing with the Russians later on. That's probably why you have this false image of them, since the communists hated them and were hunting down and killing them long after the war, even into the 1950s. They were not cooperating with the Germans, AK was created to fight the Germans. They started the Warsaw Uprising against them, the biggest uprising in the WWII in which 250k Poles were killed. That's not what people who cooperate with you do.

Hundreds of thousands of Poles served in German army and SS? WOW! Our own army was 950k people strong, so this would mean we actually fielded a second army almost equally strong? Damn, were we good! There were some Poles who served in German army, but not many and most of them were forced to do so and mainly came from Silesia in which German influence has been huge through the centuries and they even speak a language that's a mix of Polish and German. Most of them have double citizenship even today, so you can't count them as typical Poles. I have a few friends from there, who speak better German than regular Polish. Hell, Franciszek Smuda - a Pole, the head coach of our football team on Euro 2012 speaks better German than Polish! There was a reason they had authonomy and their own parliament before the war and some of them want to regain it now. On top of that Poles who were collaborating were called "Volksdeutsch" (a term which is an insult to this day), they were hated, persecuted and tried by Polish underground courts and often sentenced to capital punishment. So no, what you claim is just another big fat lie or you just don't know history.

And no, Polish people are not resposible for mass murders of Jews, stop repeating that or I will report you if you say that again. I'm very sorry, but this is just lies and you should stop humiliating yourself by repeating things like this. Try to find any proof for the things you claim before you state them, ok?

So in general, stop repeating these lies. I feel sorry for you, that you live in a country like Russia, where old communist lies and propaganda are still present and so much alive among people, but you have Internet now, so try to do your own research on western web pages before you try to attack a country that has always been against yours. Cause you just might find, that your propaganda experts have tinkered with the facts...

If you plan to answer, please show some proof for your claims or just better shut up.