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VGKing said:
JayWood2010 said:
VGKing said:
JayWood2010 said:
VGKing said:
JayWood2010 said:
If you ever want to know why I get aggravated with people on this site, this is why. There is hundreds of rumors flying around and we dont know if a single one is true. Half say the NeXbox is more powerful than ps4 and then the others say PS4 is. Most likely they will be similar but we dont know a single thing about either one so speculation should be left out until we see kinect 2.0 and the NeXbox. Same goes to PS4. I could make a thread saying why people may not want the PS4 off of things ive heard as well. Wait until we get official announcements before making these type of threads instead of picking one rumor out of the 100s that we see every day

Please read the post. This is about more than just power. I'm not saying the next Xbox is underpowered. That is the least of their problems.


I did read the post.  Things I disagree with too.   First you are talking about rumors and power of the console.  Then you go on to say Microsoft is cocky on the success of kinect and that core gamers are pissed.  WRONG! I would say that they are preparing for next gen with core games, after we keep hearing about things they are working on.  Theyve even been building studios up for this, looking at Black Tusk Studios.  They will most likely take the same strategy as of last gen.  Competitive price and buy a lot of exclusives early in the gen for core gamers.  But hey you can ignore that.  You can also ignore the fact that sony didnt necessarily deliver last year with the PS3 or Vita either.  What did they have?  Liberation and Sony All Stars?  Nothing to brag about.  This year is better with God of War and Last of Us but my point is they havent been pumping games out either.  Why?  Because most likely they are both preparing for next gen, and I actualyl find it to be a huge mistake that Last of Us and Beyond is not PS4 titles as they would benifit more from that.  

EDIT:  Also from rumors Sony will have some kind of gimmick as well driving the price up.  You also ignore that.  It's like you just picked one rumor to make an argument out of.

Sony has been puming out new IP. 2012 was proof of that All-Stars, LBP Karting, Gravity Rush, Starhawk...etc. I see dedication to the core gamer right there.

I did hear about that rumor about a touchscreen controller for PS4, but from what I understand this will be much more like the Ouya controller than the Wii U gamepad. Call me crazy but I don't see touchscreen as a gimmick. Maybe back in 2006.....


And how successful was those games.  Halo 4 outsold all of them combined.  And I dont care if it isnt a gimmick, it will still drive the price up since that was your point with this thread.  Wait until official statements before these kinds of threads.  This thread was poorly done and ignores so much it isnt funny.  Dont bring up new ip's from sony btw when very few [people care about them in the first place.  Not to mention how poorly recieved those games was.  They havent been pumping out games.  2012 was a horrible year for sony in the gaming market and to say otherwise makes you look even worst in my opinion.  Ill flat out tell you when something didnt do good and gaming in general last year from an exclusive stand point was bad from every single console.  Halo 4 was the only big exclusive for the HD twins.  WiiU had a few and 3DS had Kid Icarus and a few others.  Vita had nothing that was big.  Persona 4 is an amazing game but it isnt big either.  

EDIT: Forgot about Forza Horizon.  Not as big but still a big hitter even if it is a brach off.

The games were all new IPs. Not all IPs can sell millions. This thread is pure speculation if you don't like it then leave. 


I said Sony didnt do good last year and that is true like it or not.  It doesnt matter if they are new ips or not, especially if they arent well recieved.  Last of Us is a new IP, and Beyond, both of those are much bigger than anything coming from the PS3 in 2012.  If you want me to leave then dont reply to me.  You have given poor reasons behind your statements, simple as that.