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Jay520 on 20 January 2013
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Michael-5 said:

!. We both could be wrong, for now I sill side with the general concensus. The Nature vs. Nurture debate strongly favors nature, and I'll believe what the scientists believe as I think they are the most educated on the subject.

2. No it doesn't and what you're saying is obvious. However there is no place in the world void of homosexuality. So are you saying that there isn't enough diversity in the world for one environment to exist which doesn't have the factors which lead to homosexuality? There is no 1 population (small representable group of people) in the world which isn't homosexual despite all of our cultural, social, family, and geographical variation?

3. It was agreed upon by whom? I haven't read a single scientific article which claims gay people are gay because it's their preference. Many gay people wish to be heterosexual and feel ashamed when first discovering their condition. Every gay person in this debate has mentioned a period of self loathing or disrespect. If it was just a matter of preference, one could easily mate with someone who isn't their type could they not? Many gay people just have no attraction to people of the opposite gender, if it's just preference, this makes no sense.


1. You must not know what a concensus means. 

2. Are you trying to assert that just because a condition is caused by environmental factors, that means somewhere in the world, that condition would not exist? What is this logic based on? You could say the same thing about any preference which is caused by environmental factors. Just because they're environmental factors doesn't mean there should be one place where that preference doesn't exist.

Let's look at this sentence you said here: 

"So are you saying that there isn't enough diversity in the world for one environment to exist which doesn't have the factors which lead to homosexuality?"

There is no "one environment." That doesn't make sense. Every person in the world experiences different environment factors. There is always complex differences in how everyone experiences the world.

As for this: 

"There is no 1 population (small representable group of people) in the world which isn't homosexual"

Do you have a link to back this up? Or are you just making random guesses.

3. Yes, it's a preference. That's why it's called sexual preference. Are you screwing with me or have you not heard of the term sexual preference? Gay people prefer people of their own sex. Straight people prefer people of a different sex. You seem to be implying that all preferences are conscious choices. That's simply not the case.