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Jay520 on 19 January 2013
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Michael-5 said:
Jay520 said:

1. No, those statistics are the result of unprotected sex, not homosexuality. You have a problem with unprotected sex, not homosexuality as a whole. So don't say you are against homosexuality as whole, because that's just not true; you are fine with plenty of homosexuals. Instead, say you are against homosexuals who practice unprotected sex.

2. Please explain to me how homosexuality harms humanity as whole. Do you think humanity is in dire need of more people? Do you think humanity will be noticeably damaged if a small population cannot reproduce? How exactly is homosexuality harming the human race?

3. I never contested against looking for a cure for homosexuality. Sure, there's nothing wrong with wanting a cure for homosexuality for those who don't wish to be gay. In fact, it would probably be an excellent discovery (if possible, of course). What I have a problem with is you saying you are "against" homosexuality as whole. There's a big difference between being against a condition, and wanting a cure for that condition. Big difference.

1. I'm against homosexuality, but not gay people (at least not those who practice unsafe sex). I worded that poorly before. I don't think the illness is "okay" or normal. It's a defect, or a disorder, it's not something you choose to have, and current cures are no better then cures for schizophrenia only a century ago. However I don't hate homosexuals, they didn't choose to be gay, and like everyone else they deserve to be happy.

2. Google fitness. It's a term genetecists use to determine the reproductive abilitiy of a species. It should be pretty obvious that two people of the same gender can't reproduce. So it does hurt the fitness of the human race, you even said it in your bullet. However does it matter that a small population can't reproduce? No, not really, thats why I said I'm okay with homosexuals and gay marriage, but why not look for a cure? Not all homosexuals want to remain homosexual. I'm sure a lot of people want to raise their own child, and not an adoptee.

Do you not care about homosexuals who wish to have a monogamous marriage and produce a child using their own genetic material? Do you not want people who wish to live heterosexual lives to have that choice?

3. I am against the condition, I explained myself poorly before. If you look at my previous messages I mentioned several times that I'm not against gay individuals, i'm just against the illness.

However it's not a harmful illness, but it is a defect of some sort. There is no gay gene, people didn't evolve to become homosexuals. It does not benefit the fitness of the species, but unlike every genetic trait that harms the fitness of a species, it doesn't disappear over a few generations. Thus homosexuality is not a genetic trait, and since it's not something that people develop, and people are born gay, then it's most likely an error in DNA replication. Hence a defect, no different from down syndrome, or schizophenea (which is beleived to be such). Homosexuality occurs randomly in the population, and it's very difficult to correct genetic defects, but research has been advancing in these fields.

1. Please explain what you mean by being "against homosexuality." Because based off what you're saying, you are not against homosexuality as a whole. You are against homosexuals who practice unprotected sex, and you are against homosexuality only when it occurs in people who don't want to be homosexuality.. These people do not make up all homosexuals; they are only a subset of homosexuals. So it's silly to say you are against homosexualiy as a whole.

2. Why do you care about the reproductive ability of a small part of humanity? 

3. "Thus homosexuality is not a genetic trait, and since it's not something that people develop, and people are born gay,"

You don't know this. Scientist don't know this. Accept the fact that you don't know. Once you accept that, this can go along a lot smoother. With that said, people may not be born gay, in which case, it's probably not possible for their to be a cure.

Again, what do you mean by being "against the condition." What the hell does that even mean? Do you want all homosexuals to be forced to be straight? What? What does that mean?