Brazilian sales chart for 2012

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VGKing said:

mrstickball said:

VGKing said:

mrstickball said:
Err, here's Gold stats back in 2010: http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/02/microsoft-only-50-percent-of-xbox-live-users-pay-for-gold-subscription/

Just as I thought. Nowhere near 30m paid members. That 12.5m is from 2010, the number could be a bit higher now, or it could be lower. We won't know until we get updated numbers.

The main thing that its Interactive Entertainment Division CEO, Dennis Durkin, said that a whopping 50 percent of Xbox Live users actually pay the $60 per year for Xbox Live. There’s 25 million Xbox Live subscribers, so you’re looking at something like 12.5 million Xbox Live Gold subscribers. How many of these 12.5 million people aren’t jerks? That’s all I want to know.

Actually, by now, its probably past the 23 million you were arguing about. Upon further digging..

As of January 2012, there were 40 million XBL users. The 50% ratio of gold users has been the same since 2008, so there's no way to assume its dropped. (http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-brief/60687-xbox-live-users-topple-40-million)

 

" there are 40 million users who have signed up for an online Xbox Live account. "

That's all that article mentioned. It says nothing about 50% Gold subscribers. You're just assuming now....

Look at the other articles I've provided previously (or better yet, do a little bit of research yourself). Every time Microsoft cites numbers, they've always cited XBL accounts. Additionally, they've also cited multiple times that 50% of users were gold subscribers.

Here's an example from Techcrunch in 2010: http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/02/microsoft-only-50-percent-of-xbox-live-users-pay-for-gold-subscription/

The data says 25 million total subs / 12.5 million gold subs. Therefore, by Jan 2012, it was 40 million, and likely to assume 20 million gold subs.

So you have a baseline of 20 million gold subs as on Jan 1st, 2012. If you don't believe there are more today, you're really trying to be obtuse and argue not from a place of reason, but bias.

So you have a few options in which to believe:

1. Users are not subscribing to gold as often as they were in 2010. You'd need to back this up, and that argument is something you have to prove, not me.
2. Not as many users are registered online as there were in 2012. Again, you'd have to back this up.
3. Or, I'm right, and that there are somewhere between 45-50 million registered XBL users, and approximately 50% are gold users. Even using lower metrics, say 45m and 40% being gold users, you still get 18m gold users.

So please, provide some sort of coherent counterpoint with data to show where my numbers are wrong. Until you do that, you're assuming far more than I am, because you've provided no data, whereas I've provided multiple references.