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Pemalite said:


Prove that nVidia games look better on nVidia cards compared to AMD. - (I.E. It simply isn't true.)
That has been debunked so many times it's not funny in the PC space.
Every now and then AMD might have better texture filtering and nVidia might get better Anti-Aliasing, but the difference is never "clear as day" and they catch up to each other eventually even without upgrading your hardware.

Sure, you get PhysX with nVidia cards, but you can also run that with AMD cards if you used hacked drivers and a secondary low-end nVidia GPU.
I am also yet to find a game I can't run on a single monitor with max graphics, triple monitor is a different story... But hell. It's allot of god damn pixels to render and nVidia would fold too.

Also, the reason why a super powerfull PC can't emulate a PS2 100% perfectly is simple. - It's not a PS2.
Emulation works on the basis that instead of modifying the game code to run optimised natively on x86 architectures, the PC uses software middle layers to "emulate" a PS2 environment where instructions are intercepted then the JIT compiler re-compiles the instructions to run in x86.
It's hardly an efficient process at any rate, the upside is compatability and potentially superior image quality, the disadvantage is of course performance.
Look at any exclusive PC game, it surely doesn't look like a PS2 game at any rate because it can take advantage of the hardware and doesn't need anything to translate the instructions.

Now, take a 5 year old PC, something along the lines of a Core 2 Quad Q6600 and drop in something like a Geforce 8800GT and a few gigabytes of ram. - You would be hard pressed not to run most games at console levels of image quality settings at 720P@30fps, provided it was a decent console port to begin with. (I.E. Not GTA IV.)
Heck, you could run Crysis on that with at-least 25-30fps. ;)

To put the Radeon 6670 in perspective for some though...
A Radeon 6670/7670 has about 3x more compute power than the Xbox or PS3's graphics chips, but does feature some image-quality enhancing features such as Tessellation and all the other pretties/optimisations that we got with the move to Direct X 10/10.1 and 11.

The other thing to remember is that Sony and Microsoft wouldn't be using the slow and bog standard for low-end cards, GDDR3 memory either and probably opt for memory with vastly more bandwidth, so it would still beat a cheap desktop Radeon 6670/7670 at any rate.

Also worthy to note is that Integrated graphics have reached a point of almost being at parity of a Radeon 6670/7670 both from Intel and AMD. A few more years and they will probably eclipse it.
But with that said, I highly doubt Sony or Microsoft would choose such chips, especially aging ones based on the VLIW5 architecture.


I'm talking about my exprience with AMD/ ATI cards. When one plays games like Never Winter Nights 2 and realizes that it was optimized for Nvidia cards in mind, it sorta sucks that I can't turn on the shadows above low in the game because the FPS drop to 10-15. I still have my AMD card, and I primarly buy AMD cards, I'm not trying to bash AMD. What I am trying to say is that when a company has a good deal of influence in the market, they sometimes make partnerships with developers where the code is optimized for their products. If you don't believe me just take a look at game ports, not all of them a great.

You said, "Also, the reason why a super powerfull PC can't emulate a PS2 100% perfectly is simple. - It's not a PS2."

Good! That was exactly my point. PS2 game software was optimized for the PS2 in mind. A PC can't do it as well. That was my point. And to add to that, I'm going to argue that Sony and Microsoft don't need to have a high level GPU. They just need one that when optimized can do full 1080p with direct X with a hint of anti aliasing (maybe some Tessellation) at 45-60fps. Why pay for more? Please remember that they only need to meet 1080p screens; 2k & 4K screens are years aways before they become affordable alternative. They would be shooting themselves in the face if they try to place anything higher on their console because of the HDTV screen bottle neck.