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Edouble24 said:
Don't apologize you didn't even insult me just now. Anyway I don't think Gnizmo is a professional reviewer and my comment was directed towards him saying Wii Sports is a well made game. THIS IS WHERE OUR DIFFERENCE IS. I think stuff like Wii Sports was rated fairly, you don't. And not based on opinions either, but based on the merit of the game, what it offers, the depth and functionality of the game.

The best action movies get the same reviews as the best kids movies get the same reviews as the best artsy-fartsy ones. In gaming, "casual" titles are uniformly lower in review score, and moreover are constantly derided by critics as "non games."

See, this here is what I'm arguing. Nothing about movies really, that was just an example for me showing that it's the same, you obviously don't agree. Now I don't consider 'casual games' to be a genre. Halo and Mario were casual games last gen (and still are) and they both received amazing reviews. Nintendogs also scored really well because it's great at what it does. By casual you seem to be referring to...bad games.

Things like Wii Sports, Wii Play, Mario Party 8, Mario and Sonic...these games have some very serious flaws. Wii Sports I can see an argument for or against...that didn't get such bad reviews. But the games that did score poorly are BAD. Just because they sold well doesn't mean they should have scored higher. There are always exceptions to the rule but I think it's consistent for the most part.

Do you see what I'm saying now? Because it seems like you haven't this entire time, I know how movie critics rate movies and I'm saying they are doing the same thing as game reviewers for the most part.

Okay, I'll try to explain this one more time, because it's apparent that you still don't understand.

An entire audience (a large and growing one, at that) and the games they like (Mario and Sonic, Wii Play, Wii Sports, Raving Rabbids, Endless Ocean, Big Brain Academy, and so forth) is recieving uniformly negative reviews. You personally do not like these games, that's clear.

Here's a simple question: does it seem likely to you that an entire genre of games (mini games, if you'd prefer that title) is uniformly bad? That every single game in the genre is bad? Because that's precisely how gaming critics have reviewed them. There isn't a single game listed there or in the entire genre that has reviewed well. So here are your two possibilities:

1) It just so happens that every single game ever released in this genre is bad

2) Reviewers don't know how to objectively review this genre

If you honestly think the former is correct, then you're so heavily entrenched in your own opinions that you're being deliberately obtuse.

Here is the metacritic score for games listed in the "party" genre released in the last 3 years:

http://www.metacritic.com/search/process?ty=3&ts=&tfs=game_all&sb=5&game_genres=party&release_date_s=12%2F31%2F2005&release_date_e=&x=40&y=12&metascore_s=&metascore_e=

Exactly one game has recieved good reviews, and that one only moderately so, at an average of 83.



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