What do you believe in: Fate, Coincidence, or Choice?

[kaneada]

Jay520 said:

kaneada said:

No time does not exist...only change in energy...time is how we perceive these things, its  a unit of measure. Your assumption that all outcomes are predetermined is based souly on the illusion of time and not on the change in energy itself. There is no means for you or I to predict that change in energy through anything other than assumption. 

If time does not exist, then how do you differentiate between energy before change and that same energyafter change. What is the concept that distinguishes the two?

Good question. The answer lies with none other than Einstein. "Energy can neither be created nor destroyed it can only be changed from one form to another." Time is the unit of measure that decribes that change, but in and of itself is not real. Look at the universe around you. You are observing energy from X number of light years away. That does not indicate that time exists, that indicates that energy exists and that it travels through space. 

Even simpler you can also consider an atomic clock which uses the occilation of an atom at 10^10 cycles per second. Beacuse this energy changes, we can use those changes to determine time. However, the actual time is based on an arbitary seed set to that ocillation. Given that we have clocks that literally measure a change in energy to detmine time itself, I think my arugment is self evident. Time is a unit of measure not a real entity.