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chriscox1121 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Gamerace said:
As always Pachtner is way off base.

I'd say 30m with 35m being optomistic. Once other systems come on the market I expect WiiU sales to resemble GC sales.


The way Nintendo has positioned itself with its audience and functions, I can see it doubling the GC sales and no less. 40-45 M is more than generous the way third parties are responding to Nintendo as well. If the PS4 and 720 leave the Wii U in the dust as far as multimedia, online community and exclusives the Wii U will become a secondary console only purchased for exclusives like the GC and the N64 before it.

you could be correct, but I still think it's too early to tell.  After this year it will be very telling; wii has established itself as a very strong brand.  The next two christmas' could be very good for Nintendo especially if we have a 249.99 console.   

We've yet to see how 3rd parties respond.  Frankly aside from Ubisoft, I think the launch support was tiped at best.   A lot of games, but all ports of old games or uninspired affairs.    Nintendo has had to buy games from TT (Lego City) and Platinium (101/Bayenetta).   EA and Activision - the two biggest 3rd parties have been particularly poor in their support of WiiU.   And this is launch window when support is usually best.     There's little announced from 3rd parties going forward and I expect few downports from MS/Sony's new systems.    WiiU will probably get most of it's ports from iOS after support for 360/PS3 dries up - that would make the $99 Ouya a direct competitor.

I think the WiiU is an abandonment of both core and mass market.  It's basically back to GC audience - kids and Nintendo core.  I'm giving it 50% more sales for Wii spillover effect and expanded audience but it'll also be hindered by Android tablet/gaming systems coming onto the market - often for less than half the WiiU price.