The Official Song of Ice and Fire Thread [UNMARKED SPOILERS FOR ALL BOOKS]

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Trunkin said:

gergroy said:

Yeah, lyanna and raegar are his parents, im pretty sure.  Also, lyanna seems to have been in love with raegar and as such it seems that robert baratheon was actually a bit of a villain.  It is true that raegars father was mad and probably needed to be put down, but everything about raegar seems to suggest he was a good and honorable man.  I think the one act that doomed the targaryen rule is when the mad king killed ned starks older brother.  That one act put the majority of the kingdom against him.

Tyrion did lose a lot of his appeal in dance.  The whole circus act seemed incredibly out of character for him, which i guess was the point, but it was very uniteresting to read.  

What do you guys think is going to happen with brand stark?  

The Mad King deserved a worse fate than he suffered, but it's a shame Raegar had to die as well; he seemed like he would have made a far better king than Robert did.

I didn't have much to back this up, but while reading the books I had always assumed that the Others were the Children of the Forest. Though my little pet theory was debunked by Dance, I still have a gut feeling that the Children and the three eyed crow(Brynden Rivers?) are closely related to the Others. I've always found it strange that in a series such as ASOIF where there is supposedly no black and white there could be a fundimentally "black" entity such as the Others. There's got to be some sort of justification, some reason, behind their deeds.

That's where I think Bran comes in. My guess is that he's going to be the POV through which we learn more about the Others. Perhaps he'll even join their side in the end. The Crow always said that he would fly, and you have to admit that it would be pretty cool to see Bran seize control of Dany's dragons and turn them against her. Ah, drama.

Unfortunately the TV show has made them appear irredeemably evil. Whereas the books describe them as relatively human looking, wearing armour etc. The fact they use zombies as their army kinda puts them beyond merely misunderstood. You could say that the R'hllorites do the same (Dondarrion and Cat being brought back from death) but the big difference is that as far as it looks Dondarrion and Catelyn are both fully self aware including having full memory of their pre-death life, and it's only one or 2 people, not an entire horde.

In a world where people and cultures are various shades of grey it's OK to have the odd person / group be totally black. It's mostly pure as trhe driven snow white that puts a tale into cheesyness.