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Scoobes said:
It's a bit difficult to not bring religion into this argument considering marriage is generally considered a religious institution. In the UK we have civil partnerships where gay people have the same rights as heterosexuals. Do I think this is an appropriate compromise? No.

Whilst it works as a neutral piece of legislation, it still allows religious institutions to discriminate against a minority and for the simple reason of clinging to an archaic tradition. Why should religious bodies get a free pass when everyone else has to be treated fairly? After reading this thread, I have yet to see a good, sound and logical reason to deny homosexuals the right to marry.


Well...there isn't one. Thats kind of the problem. Thats why so many arguments here are either ridiculous, deny scientific understanding of sexual preference, or fall back on religion: any aversion towards homosexual marriage is purely cultural, and is not based on the fear of any genuine, well founded potential consequences. Homosexuals getting married affects quite literally no one but homosexuals.

As for religious institutions being able to discriminate...seperation of church and state work both ways. Government cannot enact any laws favoring specific religions, but they also cannot enact laws that force religious institutions to do things that go against their core beliefs. Within reason, in any case.

Cacrowe119 said:
Love the headline. Explain why a religous ceremony is wrong for people who dont follow the religion without bringing the religion into it. Question really should be. Why would gay people want to be "married" which is a Christian religous belief when there are so many other types of couplings from other religions or beliefs that do not restrict based on sexual preference.
I have no issues with anyone gay, straight, animal lovers or furries except for those that feel their sexual preferences make them better than others and label themselves in a way to set themselves apart as superior. Such as Gaymers. Never liked the term and never will. It's just an elitist term like hardcore mean to make people feel superior to others because they have some self esteem issues



 

But its not a religious ceremony. Marriage is a legal contract between two people that give them the rights to certain benefits. Thats the issue here. Its not about gays having a Christian marriage, its about gays having a government recognized legal marriage.