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The_vagabond7 said:
Vertigo-X said:
Guys, there's no arguing with the religious types. They have faith, and you can't argue with faith, no matter how hard you try.

 I agree. Belief in a specific god is not based on logic, but emotion. And as such cannot be argued away, nor should it. To try and take somebody's god away would be cruel. But if somebody wants to walk in and claim that there IS logic behind believing in a specific diety, then they are fair game to argue with. I don't expect them to admit they are wrong, because like I said, it's not a logic based belief. Even if you completely stump them, they will just assume they are still right for reasons they don't know. Such being true I rarely participate in this sort of thing, other than as a logic building excercise as Final Fan, crashman and others seem to be doing. Actually trying to destroy faith is a ridiculous task to take on, because it is beyond reason.


Well, the vast majority of those who believe in a religeoun do so because of upbringing and tradition, not a concious decision on their own part (as can be seen by their inability to defend their beliefs against the simplext of scrutiny.)

Those who claim to have faith in the bible do so not because of any real reason that they should, but because they are TOLD its the word of god.  So they really don't have faith in god, but faith in the people who told them the bible was divinely inspired.

The only people who have TRUE faith in god are those who believe what they believe due entirely to internal conviction and self reflection.  Following a book is blindness not faith, and afront to the supposed free will and intelligence that was the blessing god was supposed to have given us.  Blind following of work by man makes you no better than an animal as you are sacrificing all reason, logic, and sense that seperates us from beasts.



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