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fordy on 10 January 2013
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Areym said:
fordy said:
Areym said:
The only possible argument would be that gay marriage could lead to bestiality. If a person can prove that an animal is consenting in the two doing it and god know what else, can we allow them to be married? We did it for gays, why not bestiality?

Even so, it's two, somewhat different things but I am pro gay marriage and opening the gateway to bestiality would be the only real argument I can think of.


You do realise that a lot of people are going to be offended for you grouping gay marriage in with bestiality, right? Besides, bestiality is the act of a human having sex with an animal. Gay marriage might not even involve sex at all. What you'd use for that argument is to denounce homosexual acts themselves, and I'm afraid you're decades late to that party, my friend.

Like I said, I can't come up with a valid argument against gay marriage, mainly because I support it or at the very least, I am indiferent. 

I should have expanded on bestiality but I got lazy and hafl-assed the post. Long story short, if a man can prove that he loves and animal and that animal loves him back equally (which I admit would be hard as fuck to do if not impossible) and he wants to ger married, can we stop him? By letting gays get married, it would be we no longer consider marriage to be between exclusively a man and woman. Now, you could deny it by saying  that its interspecies love/marriage is wrong, blah blah blah. I really don't see why anybody would be butthurt about gay marriage. I mean, you're not getting married, it doesnt involve you in the least so why oppose it.

At the end of the day, its religion. IT IS ALWAYS RELIGION.

I agree. It is religion. You did raise an interesting, non-religious point though.

With this, if we managed to someday interpret animal thought and consent, I think you'd see a LOT of changes happen overnight. The world would not be the place that we see it today. Besides bestiality, I'd say a lot of people would willingly turn vegan, with a hard push for governments to ban meat consumption. Animals would suddenly get a lot more rights, too. Bestiality and marriage would be some of them. 

However, it would need to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's consent and not another reaction such as stress. It's a case of interpreting the mind outside of the mind, which is impossible to do. For example, how are we supposed to know that my mind interprets the colour red the exact same way as your mind? It's literally impossible to determine..