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osed125 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
osed125 said:
ninjablade said:

i think people forget that nintendo gave up on the gamers market, they admitted they were looking for a different market with wii and they found it. the only problem is IMO that market is not the kind market you can rely on, its not a market like the 360/ps3/apple where you upgrade the tech, and people will be all over it, its a market where you have to creat something totaly unique and captivating and that market is a hit or miss, mostly miss though.

I would love to see a link where Nintendo said that...

Nintendo only said they were expanding their market in both casual and cores (although they never said those exact words I believe). Nintendo knows they have lost some of the core gamers during the Wii and the Wii U is their answer to get them back, whether they will fulfill that or not is another discussion.  

I think what he failed to say is that Nintendo doesn't follow the gamers they create into adulthood. Those who stay behind, really do so of their own accord. Sony hasn't had a problem taking those gamers away and neither does Microsoft. They consider their consoles the step ladder from Nintendos.

That is mostly based on opinions. A lot of adults play a lot of Nintendo franchises till this day. I see it that all over the internet. If you feel Nintendo franchises are for kids then that's your opinion and It doesn't reflect the gaming market. I don't see Sony or MS "taking" those gamers, most gamers will play on all consoles (and enjoy their games), they will obviously have preferences, but that doesn't mean they are taking them.

Edit: at your post above. That purely PR talk, Nintendo gamers didn't "graduate" and move to other platforms. The Wii sold a lot because it was targeted to casuals (nobody argues that), but a lot of those sells come from gamers who want to play Zelda, Mario, Metroid, etc. If the gamer had desires to play 3rd party games they would simple buy a 360, PS3 or a PC, but some gamers didn't "move on" from Nintendo. 

yes adults do play nintendo games, thats not what i'm talking about though, what i'm saying is they can't compete with sony and microsoft in the gamers market, the part about you saying alote of those sales came from people wanting to play nintendo games is false, just look at gamecube's system sales, and nintendo was way more populer with gamers at that time. most of the wii  sales came from none gamers and children.