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The difference is I CAN'T know with 100% certainty that Obama will win the election. If I say he is, and I am imperfect, I can be proven wrong.

God, who is perfect, CAN'T be proven wrong. If he knows something will happen, it will happen, there is NOTHING, NOTHING that can change it. And since there is only one possible outcome, the one that God knows will happen, I can't, CAN'T, CHOOSE a path that results in a different outcome. I can't, its not possible. The ONLY 'choice' I have is the one that god knows. Its set in stone. And if I can only 'choose' to do one thing, then I have no choice. If I am at all limited at what I can actually choose to do, I don't have free will.

That's like saying, I know for a fact that if I drop a bowling ball off a roof, it will fall, but the ball has to first choose to fall first. No, it will fall. Why? Because thats the only option. My understanding of gravity makes me 100% certain that the ball will fall (in all practical scenarios.)

There is no way around it. If god is perfect, and god is all knowing, then he knows all paths everyone will take. I'm not even going to say what decisions they make because that's not what happens. He knows where they will be and what they will be doing at all times, prior to their existance. They HAVE to be in those places and be doing those things. If they weren't, god would be wrong. They can't choose not to be in that place and not to do those things. And when you can't choose you don't have free will.



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