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Aielyn said:
fordy said:
Oh I treat everyone with love and dignity, but I'm going to make sure my kids aren't gay.

I'm very much in favour of real equality (read my previous post), but you're behaving atrociously and you seem to be refusing to listen to what killerzX is saying.

He didn't say he's going to make sure his kids aren't gay. He said that he knows they won't be. There's a difference. One is an attitude of "I refuse to allow them to be", while the other is "I have faith that they won't be". You and I may not be all that big on faith, but there's a big difference between faith and bigotry. From what I can see, killerzX is somewhat ignorant, but not at all a bigot.

Now, if you can't be polite and actually read what your debating opponent is saying, then perhaps you should remove yourself from the debate for the time being, until you're ready to actually debate rather than ranting and throwing terms like "bigot" around.


I know exactly what he's saying. The basis of saying that being gay is a choice is one that conservatives push a lot, so they're able to say "Well they brought it on themselves to be ridiculed. They CHOSE to be that way". That was the point I was getting to in the above post. Why WOULD people willingly choose such a lifestyle of ridicule aimed towards them?

Once again, people can be bigots and be ignorant towards it. It comes by their actions more than their words. Anyone can say that they love everybody.

Oh, and a guarantee cannot come from faith. That's why it comes from logic and not faith. He said in another post it was a guarantee.