If you are against gay marriage, explain why without mentioning religion

[Lafiel]

BasilZero said:

Lafiel said:

Player1x3 said:

Andrespetmonkey said:

Do you know how many ancient societies allowed pedophilia by modern standards? A lot more than those that didn't, not that that's to say it makes it morally right, but to say they weren't exactly low on the morality spectrum.

Well then, we should be glad Christianity ended stuff like that in the Western World :)

bullshit?

mariage with 12-14 years (and consummation) was pretty much standard throughout europe even with christianity in place - from our point of view that is pedophilia

I always though marriages/unions back in classical/ancient times was because Life expectancy was lower than what it is now.

well, yes life expectency was at about ~35 years I guess, so that's a big factor, but ofcourse thats just an average that is brought down by ~40% of the people dieing before they became adults (most at birth-> reaching age of 5)

after that they probably mostly reached their 40-50th birthday