Social media abuzz over Piers Morgan vs. Alex Jones (Gun control debate goes awry...)

[Mr Khan]

sc94597 said:

Mr Khan said:

 

Simple: if it isn't a handgun and isn't expressly for the purpose of hunting, it's an assault weapon that nobody who doesn't want to foment rebellion has any legitimate business owning.

What about those who just want "protection" from the government. No initial rebellion. Just the exercise of the non-aggression axiom.

Is that not a legitimate reason? If the government is not interested in aggression, then it wouldn't be a problem. Not to say that there doesn't need to be a legitimate reason to own something. And if were to ban these firearms, we should restrict the same to certain other products that are excessively unecessary to the point of harm, but still bought. An example would be the sugar-based foods filled with corn-syrup in the diet of Americans. Certainly we can survive on other food, and there is no legitimate reason to eat THAT food.

You're speaking to the wrong guy on that. I'm for ending corn subsidies to enable natural sugar to take its place, and for corn to be used for stuff that corn is best used for.

The difference in mindset is a point upon which i agree with KylieDog: armed action against the government is not necessary in this day and age. Armed insurrections are always messier than peaceful power transitions, because ALL of the armed individuals in the uprising need to be satisfied if there is to be peace.

Let's say there is a general right-wing rebellion in America, with armed factions including a moderate libertarian group (the main wing), a white supremacist group, and a radical christian group. The American government agrees to a peace that is most acceptable to the libertarians, but less so to the white supremacists and christian radicals. The libertarians stop, but the radicals don't, and keep on fighting even though their beliefs are severely minority.

Armed rebellion gives disproportionate representation to the armed, and leads to messes in the future. Look at Ireland, for instance, where the Irish Civil War followed on the heels of the Irish War of Independence, and where the IRA (losers of the civil war) have continued to plague the island since. Or the Russian Civil War, where the use of weapons against tyranny simply led to a different kind of tyranny.