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sc94597 said:

the2real4mafol said:

 

Yeah i would of said Obama is just a liberal (Centre-right), but pretty much sides with the Right on economy and FP. While, there are only some differences between him and the right on social matters and some other things like environmental policy. I knew already that there is hardly a "American left" (or even a "European left" really) anymore, i'm glad someone else acknowledged it. 

I think it's clear that after the Cold War and the collapse of the Soveity Union a realy "left" won't catch traction for a while. I'm slightly right-winged myself though, and I like mixed economies with a capitalist tendency. I think the bigger issue is Authoritarianism though. Go to the website and look at where people like Stalin and Hitler are, and then compare it with Obama, Romney and European countries. Not much of a difference at all. Quite sickening to me.

I think the damage to the left started as early as Macarthyism and the "red scare" took off back in the 1950's, while the rise of Neo- liberal open market ideas in the 80's (Reagan and Thatcher) and obviously the fall of the USSR finished them off, although the current recession could see the "left" come back possibly in some countries. 

But I agree a mixed economy is best. 

As for actual leaders, you could say Thatcher is not much better than Hitler or Stalin really, while it looks like whether they are a dictator or elected they are all pretty bad. Noticeable leaders like robert mugabe, benjamin netanyahu, the pope, bashar al assad and hu jintao are all up there with Hitler and Stalin. I don't see why they need to be authoritarian though, they should all recognise there power and government power has limits and that they can't try to control and manipulate people's lives like they do