Sony Won't Release PS4 until 2014 and It Won't Be a Gimped Console.

[DanneSandin]

EdHieron said:

DanneSandin said:

You're really predicting their doom imo...

First off; if Sony launches in late 2014, it wouldn't be a ONE years head start; it would be TWO years head start - since Wii U lanuched late in 2012. Secondly, it wasn't until AFTER the price drop the PS3 really picked up steam, so launching one year after x3ox with a higher price tag wouldn't benefit PS4, and soon they'd have to cut the price (like they did with PS3) and they'd be losing money (like with the PS3). Not a good strategy.

And with this strategy they would lose in Japan AND EU. Japanese aren't "graphic whores", meaning they would settle for something less powerful than a beastly PS4; enter Wii U. With a two years head start AND much cheaper price point they're set to dominate in Japan leaving the PS4 in the dust. And you gotta remember that EU is in a bad financial situation, which means that should x3ox launch one year a head with a cheaper price point Sony surely would lose that market as well leaving them with nothing. Launching at $500 would more or less guarantee a €500 price tag in EU, which translate to $650 - and that's something Europeans aren't ready to pay right now...

With your strategy Sony would ONLY attract old PS-fans, and not gaining anything else. This would be their last console.

Yeah, there were a lot of people predicting Sony's demise when it was announced that the PS3 would cost $600 at E3 2006, yet being the best selling console in the world week after week 6 years later would beg to differ.

Seeing as how 720's not going to be that cheap when it launches there wouldn't be that much difference in sales generated between a $400 and $500 (~500EU versus ~600EU) price tag in Europe initially (especially when the Sony brand is attached to the $500 / ~600EU one).  And if price is the only thing that mattered to the Europeans, they would have picked up Wii U in droves this past Christmas.  Plus at the European equivalent of $200 or less, the PS3 will continue to be doing quite well in Europe until PS4 releases / gets its first price cut and cutting into 720 sales that would also mitigate the earlier start for 720.

Also seeing as how Wii U is a late 7th gen console or a 7.5 gen console whereas the PS4 would be a true 8th gen console you would see most of Japan's true Next Gen development geared towards PS4.  Really, overall, even with a two year head start you wouldn't see that much of a difference in Japan between Wii U and PS4 something like that between DS and PSP or the much smaller Wii versus PS3 gap ~4 million in favor of Wii with PS3 gaining every week demonstrating that there are many Japanese gamers that enjoy comparably awesome graphics especially if a lot of Japanese titles were already in development and being geared as PS4 or 8th Gen Console exclusives for the PS4's launch window (possible eg. Metal Gear Solid 5).

Yes, it's been the best selling console for like a year or two - doesn't mean it'll catch up to Wii. And question is how much more will it sell than the 360? But none of that matters as Sony more or less haven't earned any money from the PS3. They lost a shit load of money in the beginning, and it's not until recently they've hit their pre-PS3 levels of money. That is not a sustainable business model.

The difference between x3ox and PS4 is that MS has a lot of money. They can afford to produce a console at $500 and sell it for $400 - Sony can't. This make MS extremely competitive and can under cut PS4's price point every step of the way. And one of the reasons the Europeans DIDN'T buy a Wii U is BECAUSE of it's high price tag. €350 is a lot in EU right now, so do you really expect Sony to be successful with a €500 system?! It's gonna bomb HARD if it releases with that price. Sony will be forced to cut the price and lose money on it, money they don't have.

It doesn't matter how you count the generations; we number them because it makes it easier for the industry (and the fans) to talk about them. No matter how you wanna see the generations, it's a fact we compare the Wii with PS360 - because they're competing against each other for out money. That's what matters. It doesn't matter whether or not you think of Wii U as a gen 7 or gen 8 machine; it will compete with PS720 for the market's money. THAT'S what matter.

The Wii is dead and isn't getting any more games; THAT'S why PS3 is gaining on it. Nintendo dropped that piece of machine as if it was poison, and it shows. A much more relevant comparison would be 3DS vs Vita. Tell me, how is that race going? Last I saw the numbers 3DS had sold over 10m in Japan while Vita is stuck somewhere around 500k. Seriously, that's a HUGE difference. Both consoles are being supported and are new entries to the market. Vita is much more powerful than 3DS, so how come 3DS is consistently outselling Vita if Japanese wants better graphics and power? Please explain that to me. 3DS is an inferior piece of technology, and yet it's selling like crazy. It's really and ass raping of the Vita on a scale I've never seen before.

Let's compare 3DS vs Vita with Wii U vs PS4:

Vita/PS4 has/will have superior technology

3DS/Wii U launched earlier

3DS/Wii U is cheaper

What does that tell you? PS4 will be a huge failure if Sony follows your advice.