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kain_kusanagi said:

We aren't sick of paying for the poor, elderly, and insane. We are sick of paying for those that abuse the system and don't deserve it.

Instead of cutting the programs we just need to kick people off the dole that don't deserve it.

My money shouldn't go to a third generation welfare abuser who gets free money and housing and uses his checks to buy beer and cigarettes.

Care to explain how you end up cutting out fraud, without hiring people to administer the programs?  You hire people to cut out fraud and then you have to pay their salaries and whatnot.

Also, the above mentality is why there never will be a negative income tax to replace the welfare system.  People get irate thinking that tax dollars would go to individuals without oversight, so that you can have less government and more freedom.  he reality is YES people you see don't want to pay for ANYONE.  The 47% comment lives and a belief that those who are disadvantaged, and poor, need to be  babysat, because they can't be trusted wth welfare money.  Nope, these people are seen as different, thus there is all this bureaucratic overhead that creeps in.