Michael-5 said:
Kasz216 said:
Michael-5 said:
A) Why shouldn't handguns be illegal? What purpose do you have for target practice with a handgun when a hundgun is banned? I don't follow your logic. If you need target practice, use a rifle.
In USA you have very few home invasions when the residents are home? When is the last time you left your front door unlocked? I have never once been in the states and been to someones house, a friend or family, to find the house unlocked. In Canada it's common to have houses unlocked, robery rates in Canada are a fraction of those in USA, and I don't blaime just guns.
B) Doesn't matter if it's not an important correlation or not, guns increase homicide rates, simple as that. There is no reason to have a handgun. Why would you need a handgun for protection when no one has a handgun? Like I said countries which ban guns completly have the lowest homicide rates by far. Singapore, Japan, South Korea all have the lowest homicide rates in the world, and guess what? Guns are banned. Countries with low gun ownership rates in countries like Lithuania, Romania, Poland, Mongolia, and Hungary (.....wow mostly all countries in Eartern Europe and Asia....hmm..) also have very low homicide rates.
Read the papers I linked for you, I did (they are short).
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B) Ok, so you clearly don't have any scientific understanding background. A "Significant correlation" is just that... one that is significant... as in scientifically proveable. If a correlation is not significant that means that there is no proof, and it could just be there due to background data.
Also... Singapore does not ban guns.
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A) I assume you agree with my logic here.
B) I got my degree in Astrophysics...LOL Resorting to insult is indication of an inability to conjure up a more intelligent response.
Singapore doesn't ban guns, but they are heavily restricted.
Again, I agree that guns aren't the only reason why homicide rates are so high in USA (but it's a big factor in states like Nevada). I took a few classes in Law and I know that most homicides are alcohol influenced. Very few are planned out in advance, and the gun massecures are usually a result of psychological disorders. I know that homicide rates are more strongly affected by literacy rates and poverty, but I still see no reason why handguns should be legal. I also think the minimum age to own a rifle should be higher, every time I think about Virginia tech, it's a tragedy.
A Rifle does everything a handgun can do, and more. Plus it's difficult to conceil, so you don't have to worry about someone shooting you publicly as much.
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A) No I just skipped it because you didn't know what significant correlation meant. "Unlocked doors" is an ancedote. The Plural of Ancetdote isn't data. As it is, there are a lot of places people leave their doors unlocked in the US. Generally small towns with extremely high gun ownership rates.
B) It wasn't an insult. I was being serious. You didn't understand what the term "Significant correlation" meant. I was trying to explain it to you as a lot of people don't have a requisite understanding of statistics or the scientific method which is sad.
A significant correlation looks more like this.
(This is US States.)
Also. god no. Nevada's high rates of crime and murder are due to all the drug addicts/gambling addicts who end up homeless on the streets because they keep feeding their addictions. Seriously though, there are more then enough threads on this, so move to another one if you want to continue this, we've derailed this thread enough.
