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SangheliZealotX on 06 January 2013
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bouzane said:
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Halo, it invented or revolutionized so many things, way more than any of these series and more than almost every series in gaming.

Like what, for example?  A quick run-down of the major points would be nice.

Regenerating health(used in 95% of modern games in every genre)

Console online mmultiplayer 

two gun system

seperate Melee button

auto aim

modern first person control scheme

console user generated content, theater system

the survival of the Xbox brand

those are just the things it heavily influenced or created, halo is also pretty much responsible for the success of console shooters, halo wasn't the first console FPS but it was the first that could rival pc shooters. For being responsible for the rise of FPS halo is indirectly responsible for the rise of western game development(Japanese dominated before 2001 because westerners are best and making shooters and those weren't popular) it also popularized wide open environments over small corridors and it revolutionized shooter storytelling. Halo also turned gaming into a blockbuster industry, halo 3 was the first game to become the largest entertainment launch of all time, games didn't have huge hyped up launches that could beat movies before halo, halo did the same thing to games that Star Wars did to movies. There are many other ways I could talk about halos influence but I think that's enough for now. There are very few game series I can think of that have had that much influence on gaming.

Consoles had great online multiplayer long before Halo, although it did introduce match-making (unless I'm mistaken). I'm pretty sure that you're wrong about seperate (sic) Melee button, auto aiming and a modern first person control scheme. Also, I can not stand the two weapon limit. I like imagining Resistance 2 if it wasn't marred by that.

Console online multiplayer was garbage and no one use it before halo 2. And I don't see any examples for games that did those before halo? I also said popularized not jut invented(although I still think halo invented those things until i see evidence to he contrary) and it doesn't matter if you can't stand the system, action games have heavily benefited from it. Because you mentioned resistance 2 I take it you're a ps3 fan so it is expected that you would deny halos influence.

P.S. the developer of splinter cell blacklist(A GAME DEVELOPER) credited halo for auto aim so I'm pretty sure you're wrong.


The DreamCast had great multiplayer, how can so many people be ignorant of SegaNet? Also, TimeSplitters had a modern control scheme as well as auto-aim so you're wrong on both of those counts. Pretty much every FPS game had a dedicated melee button (Duke-Nukem being the earliest example I can think of) but I'll kind of let this one slide because Halo was the first to allow you to actually strike with the butt of your gun (an odd omission from other FPS games). I did a little bit of research and discovered that other FPS games not only did health regeneration as early as 1992, but they had actual health regen and not the traditional health system coupled with shields like Halo did. That being said, Halo certainly did popularize the concept for the FPS genre.

http://www.giantbomb.com/regenerating-health/92-83/

Your logic about me being a PS3 fan is asinine. For your information, I own a PC and 360, not a PS3. It's fanboyism like yours (giving the praise for other people's hard work to a developer that does not deserve it and creating straw-men to discredit others to prevent actual discussion) that poison this hobby, especially public forums. I own Halo 1-3 and guess what, people who own the games might be more knowledgeable than you about what they did and did not achieve. Additionally, you can own a 360 and the Halo games and still see and criticize their many glaring faults.

Finally, I'm pretty sure that the Splinter Cell: Blacklist developer is just another average Joe who doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground when it comes to who introduced what to video games. Just because he is a game developer doesn't mean that he has any special knowledge of the hobby.

How many times do I have to say POPULARIZED not invented, I don't care if some obscure 20 year old game use regenerating helath, it takes something actually popular to influence the industry. Do you think bungie was sitting in their chairs waiting to develop halo and the first thing they do is go "hey guys lets look at this game that nobody's heard of from a different genre that sold 10 copies and copy it's health system!" It doesn't mean anything if you invent the thing if you can't get it to work. Halo caused people to use these systems and that's what matters. You can't find anything popular that actually invented and was the first to use something 100%. And I find it funny that you think that I would believe that some stranger on the internet knows more about gaming than a guy that gets paid to make games. So I'm still pretty damn sure that halo did invented auto aim. I can almost garuntee that he knows twice as much about gaming as you do. And the Dreamcast? Really? I knew you would bring this up and forget that it is one of the most failed systems in gaming history, it could never influence anything except showing other companies what not to do.