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It's been quoted that the product manager wants to be forgotten for awhile, judging by that and the project started 6 months ago, you can bet it won't come out till at least mid 2014

axumblade said:
Why do you think it won't?

I mean, I'm not saying it will, but we have no evidence in either direction whether it's going to be a 2013 or a 2014 release.