happydolphin, This is why I kept saying this thread was a non-discussion...a few other people have come to mention this too. I think it's pretty obvious where most people's agendas are, including yours. I learned more about the psychology of the people involved than actually the topics... this thread puts education and open-ness to learning to shame.
dsgrue... really? You might want to really consider if you might have a narcissism problem. I mean that in the best possible way. If someone feels so comfortable with themselves enough to call someone a fool and tear them down everytime someone disagrees with them in a discussion, that is not an admirable quality or strong quality in a person. If that doesn't even stop you, then that just proves my point. Your argument method has been supported by mainly bully and ridiculing into your discussion and you have absolutely no empathy for anyone you berate. I can't understand how your self esteem could handle it if you were actually able to let anyone be on equal footing with you. I mean, beyond you 'bestowing' the honor to someone by merely having a conversation with them and taking your time... we should be so honored to not be insulted and to be given due credit... Really?
This is part of why I walked away from the discussion, because I felt like there was a lot more going on than just a religions versus atheist thread. Obviously egos super involved here. I mean I kept thinking to myself, this thread was being kept open by squatters... waiting for the next fly to swat! Moreover, there is soooo much fixation on what was 'absolute'... which science is the most absolute way of viewing things/analyzing information, I agree. However, we can't ignore other people's viewpoints when we start to form our own. That is just reality, everyone has multiple ways of interpretting matters in life. I get people are angry. I get angry too. Everything's stupid! (haha) I get science is being 'threatened' by religious zealots who use bible quotes to support ridiculous theories that threaten people's wellbeings. However, the world is more complicated than that and for the most part, multiple belief systems and ways of doing things can co-exist well... at least in an American society
There were also a few times people were getting bent out of shape because of religion that they never saw there were a few of us that either never mentioned or outright said we don't follow any sort of religion. I'm not sure the good intentions for discussion were there in the first place. This thread is a horrible example of how to have an open and productive discussion with people. If you think this will get your message across, you're kidding yourself. To me, there was just too much bullying, ego patting and you think anyone would want to come in and 'engage' anyone in a discussion that's setup like this? I had a hard time trying to figure out whether or not this was 4chan or not.
I just know if this were any other forum, this thread would've been locked a long time ago. Hopefully no one personally insults or belittles me before it does happen though, because I'm so fragile that I can't handle it oh no... seriously, this must be like the new intelligent way of having discussions.. insulting and belittling people... really? And you think religion is the only thing that is poisonous to society? Any type of zealot potentially has that power.
