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spaceguy said:
Kasz216 said:
spaceguy said:
badgenome said:
spaceguy said:

However this is the result of bush Deregulating wall street and banks. Presidents have the power to regulate and deregulate.

Damn that George Bush for repealing Glass-Steagall!

I fully blame Clinton for that and it was also a republican congress bill that did that. President can only choose to not enforce regulations. Yes glass steagal was removed and under GOP control of congress. clinton should have vetoed the bill.

I'm guessing you haven't looked at the voting percentages for Glass Steagal.

It was a giagantic bipartisan bill that got more democratic votes for it, then the bail out of the banks got Republican votes.

 

The fact that you can't even stick to your own premise... in the thread you created is really sort of sad.


You do this all the time, So don't go calling people sad when you flop just as much. I posted a graph just for the hell of it, not to change subject. The fact of the matter is that the congress spends the money. How have I changed that. GOP Policies have been overwhelmingly in control since the 1980's and clinton was the move to the right to get back some power.

You claim to be fair then use Koch brother funded organizations to prove your points.

One being the heritage foundation. You only see dollars and not human well being.

Thats the difference between you and I. You only see profits for today, not the workers conditions, health care and home life. Thats the difference of the right, GREED!!! You don't want to pay for the Public schools, roads, water ways, police, firefighters, Massive defense to protect your business. You think it's all you and no one else. That's bullsh-t. I run a business, I also pay more than you would to my employee's and I don't forget how I got there. I didn't do it on my own, no one did.

So good for you, you lack empathy.

Typical liberal argument, spout lies about a person's motives (which you can't possibly know) and crazy, false, accusations about not wanting to pay Police, Firefighters, Teachers, etc. in spite of the fact that NOBODY has suggested any of that nonsense.

I would call myself a conservative libertarian, and I know a lot of people you would describe as on the 'right', and none of what you say about such people is even close to true, none of it. Of course we recognize the need for teachers, schools, roads, firefighters, police (many of those are paid for at least in part by more efficient local governments). Of course we think everybody should have access to affordable health care (though we differ on how to do that), of course we believe people should be treated and paid fairly (most of us have jobs too). Also, don't ignore the fact that conservatives are generally far more generous with their own money than the so-called 'compassionate' liberals. A big difference there is, we're generous with our own money, you want to be 'generous' with other people's money then somehow think you're better than us for it. Get off your high horse and stop spouting a bunch of insulting nonsense about people you clearly know nothing about. foolishness like this is the exact reason it's impossible to have a genuine policy discussion, it very quickly becomes personal when you feel like you might be losing an argument.

-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

-- Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.

-- Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.

-- In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.

EDIT: Another point. I go to a church filled with 'evil, greedy' republicans in a fairly affluent area. There are about 1500 members, and they are one of the most compassionate, generous bunch of people you'd ever meet. We have a ministry that helps struggling local families with bills, assistance for single mothers, provides food to needy families, job & career assistance, counseling, and much more. We've even recently planted an orchard on the property to grow healthy fruits with the express purpose of giving it away to families that can't afford healthy produce. On top of that, we fund orphanages in 3rd world countries (many of which members of the church helped build), go on routine medical missions to poor countries (paid for out of our own pockets)... the list goes on and on. What have you and your circle of liberal friends done recently to show your empathy? I have no problem with you having different political opinions, but your mindless rant about lack of empathy wreaks of desperation and ignorance.