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Player1x3 said:
Adinnieken said:

Are there people who do it for the wrong reasons?  Sure.  I still wouldn't label them "sick" because I don't agree with what they're doing to their body. 

I don't think you understand that there is a slippery slope that exists in human sexuality, where a taboo becomes a kink, and once a kink is used to get off the extremes some will go to get pleasure from it increase.

As an example:  Looking at porn is a kink that most of us (guys) use to get off when we don't have the more desirable alternative of sex itself.  For some guys, pornography is "sick" and they aren't interested in viewing it at all.  I know someone personally where that's the case.  Hell, he didn't even masturbate until his first girlfriend told him it was okay for him to do so.  Again he felt it was sick. 

Bad example. I don't have any data on me, but i'd say 90% of guys (and big percentage of women too) watch porn today. It would be more likely that he is sick rather than us hehe. Porn is actually a matter of taste, what you described before most certainly isn't.

Just because he sees it as sick, does that make him right?  No.  Just because you see people as sick doesn't mean they're sick.  You just have absolutely no understanding of what the motivation behind why they feel compelled to do it.  You see it as sexual, it isn't.  It has nothing to do with who and how they have sex.  However it has everything to do with the gender they identify with.

Yes, i know that. That's exactly why i think they're sick/disordered. They should identity themselves with the gender they're born with. Not mutate their body into something that's not.

 

Voyeur - somebody who watches for sexual pleasure: somebody who gains pleasure from watching, especially secretly, other people's bodies or the sexual acts in which they participate

http://www.minddisorders.com/Py-Z/Voyeurism.html

Voyeurism is a psychosexual disorder in which a person derives sexual pleasure and gratification from looking at the naked bodies and genital organs or observing the sexual acts of others.

So, when a disorder is common and you're a participant it's perfectly acceptable.  However, when it's something you don't understand (can't wrap your head around) or don't participate in, it's a sickness.

I understand your completely warped and deluded perspective now.  What you have to accept is that there is no normal.  Normal is a utopia that doesn't exist.  Everyone has something about them that's abnormal.  Everyone.  I've never met a single person that I would say is truly normal.  They may be less abnormal than some others, but we are all variations of abnormality.  If we were normal, if we were perfect, than we would all be perfect replicas of God or, in the very least, Adam and Eve.  We are not. 

The problem is that your perception of what is normal is either an average or an ideal.  Neither are realistic of the average person.  There isn't even a single, spectacular individual on this planet that would fit into the mold of "normal".  So stop thinking you are, and stop trying to make everyone else fit into what you perceive "normal" to be.