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Chrizum on 01 January 2013
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happydolphin said:
Chrizum said:

I might have been a bit too harsh with words, but there is a lot of confusion about what evolution is. I'd recommend you read up on "natural selection" as that may clear things up quite a bit. In short, it means: the best adapted survive and reproduce, thus making the species stronger (ie evolving). This is a very "layman" definition so if you want to know more I'd suggest checking a credible source concerning evolution and natural selection.

Although I do not believe in God, I don't see any reason why intelligent design and evolution cannot co-exist (altough the idea of inteligent design seems a bit ridicilous to me).

@1. I understand all that. I don't know how what I said denies that. Anything can be described to varying degrees. My "Evolution is an effect of random mutations" is only one part of my understanding of it. It's also an effect of natural selection and the survival/elimination of genes in a given context.

I understand all of that. You weren't only harsh, you jumped the gun. And that ties into OP, as to why I don't enjoy talking with evolutionists. I constantly find myself being labelled or lambasted wrongly. Granted I'm not all knowing, but I'm often told I don't know something when I know it (e.g. dsgrue telling me "You realize that America was colonized before Christopher Columbus", when I had said just before that America saw human migration ~15k yeas ago).  dsgrue telling me that evolution is an effect and not a cause, something I already knew. You telling me the contrary.

I'm just getting annoyed about your attitudes to be completely honest.

Woah, woah this is not fair. Don't lump me in with "evolutionists" or with any poster in this topic. I'm just letting you know your definition of evolution is very off. It really is. Random mutations do play a part in the grand scheme of things but they are just that: random. The evolution of life is a very driven, logical and determined process, it's not random at all.