pitzy272 said:
I actually played up toward the end of gow iii and then stopped (though I watched the ending cutscene on YouTube). Was tired of the things I mentioned in my previous post, and just couldn't care less about the story or Kratos anymore (also was about to start grad school at the time, so had a lot of prep stuff to do anyways). I never got to play CoO or GoS either. So...there are definitely a couple of gaps in my knowledge of the story. Some of the things u mentioned gave me better insight into some of the story and its themes, though, especially the theme of hope. Thats a nice touch to the storyline that i didnt know about. I still dont understand why they decided to completely dehumanize kratos tho, especially to the point of making him so unlikeable to many/most ppl. If they just gave him SOME boundaries or SOME evidence of a conscience (consistently), it wouldve made a big difference. Willing to kill anyone that gets in the way of his revenge against zeus? okay. Boring and monotonous after 3 games, but ok. Killing innocent ppl for either no reason or simply without a trace of moral conflict or regret? i dont get the draw there. I can go for kratos ripping a mythical enemy in half, but when it comes to humans/human-like beings, excessive/brutal killing (e.g. Hercules), or unnecessary killing (e.g. going out of his way to kill a person hanging onto a net - for no effing reason - instead of simply moving to the side to climb around him (gow iii)), are 2 of the biggest mistakes i think SSM made with kratos' character. I guess some ppl like that stuff, but again, most ppl - even many ppl who really like the GoW games - dont actually like kratos bc of these things. Okay im moving on. Ive already gone too far off topic, and im sorry for that:( If i didnt want to be able to like GoW so bad (LOVE the Greek mythology setting and the overall epicness), i never would have bothered taking the time to type all of that. Anyhooters..... I had meant to mention ascension! When that first single player footage of Ascension came out, it got me interested, yet I thought I wouldn't be playing another GoW game again. It's funny how simple and discreet the part is that (singlehandedly) regained my interest: The goat creatures impale the 2 ppl with spears, but kratos actually pushes the 3rd person out of the way. It was even obvious that he didn't care THAT much, and he was even a bit of a jerk about it haha; but he still saved him. Intentionally. Loved it! It was such a small thing, yet that short scene got its own separate buzz on forums and from game critics. I SSM expand on this and on kratos' humanity throughout Ascension. I think this could make a huge difference. That part also makes me think even more how much popularity GoW could gain if they continue the series with kratos transitioned into a protective sort of role for earth/humanity. They could even make him reluctant at first, or with some selfish motives, so that the transition is slow/less radical-seeming. Can keep a lot of the violent/brutal nature - just give kratos a reason for it, such as making it known that the creatures that represent his enemies do horrible things - kill children, rape, etc.: things that kratos simply AVOIDED before, but they now - due to his change resulting from GoW iii's ending - actually elicit anger, explaining his reason for brutalizing his enemies rather than simply killing them. I think it could be amazing (again, if done right) - even if I'm the only one haha. Wow why did I write so much? I really had to get work done:( Sigh.
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Well like I said, Kratos wanted to even end his life in GoW1 but the Gods pretty much didnt let him.
And not only did Ares make him kill his wife and daughter, Zeus pretty much killed his mother as well as had his brother tortured in which Thanatos killed him.
Add that to the evils that were released in GoW1 through Pandoras box and you have yourself a douche bag who simply wants to murder everyone xD.
And then theres always the whole greek mythos thing which in general tends to be overly violent and stuff :P.
The fact that they actually baked in a more human-y story in GoW3 and explained some stuff were actually a very nice and unexpected touch in my opinion. Id argue he finally forgave himself for his sins which was what unlocked hope within him and eventually redeemed himself by giving it to the world and not to Athena who wanted to rule (She having Greed as her sin). He realized by the end that he in a way, was already dead and that the gods were not themselves either.
I agree on Ascension. We have really not seen JACK SHIT about the SP. They have pretty much just shown us the improved combat and mentioned that Kratos will be less of an arse. This leads me to believe that we will get to see how he was before the box and all that jazz. Still though, his family is dead so dont expect him to be super friendly XD.
