JWeinCom said:
snyps said:
JWeinCom said:
scat398 said:
I am curious to know why liberals believe banning guns will end shooting sprees or help eliminate gun death rates in inner cities? We know that making something illegal doesn't make it go away ( seriously we all understand this right)?
So if we understand that making it illegal doesn't work why is that the topic of msm and democratic politicians? I wonder if it is because they believe that removing the guns will help remove part of our fascination with them? Any liberally minded people out there that can give me a response I'd like to hear the thought process on the other side of the coin. |
You make a pretty big jump from that first to second paragraph. Suddenly you go from "doesn't make it go away" to completely ineffective.
We ban rape. Do we ban it because if we do nobody will rape anyone ever again? No, but it will reduce the amount of rape that happens. Same principle here. Won't eliminate it completely, but could very well limit these types of incidents.
Take the recent shooting. We have a guy with mental problems who had access to his mom's guns in the house. So, what if there weren't guns in the house. Would he have been able to obtain them through illegitimate means? Without people who know him getting suspicious? Stricter gun control would have certainly made the weapons harder to maintain, and the harder it is to get from idea to action the less likely it is to happen.
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Banning rape is banning behavior.. Prohibiting weapons is prohibition of objects. As we all know prohibition doesn't work. And as you pointed out mental condition is the-problem. (specifically psychiatric dope). Why you choose prohibition instead of reinstating the useoff mental hospitals is perverse IMO. Every shooting spree had psychiatric drugs being forced on the killer
Well I wouldn't expect to change anyone's mind. Something to think about.
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We all know prohibition doesn't work? Not really. We know alcohol prohibition didn't work, but that doesn't mean that no form of prohibition will ever work. Besides, few people are advocating for a complete ban on guns, but more intelligent policies on how we screen/what kinds of clips are available etc.
I chose to address gun laws because someone asked that question. Treatment of mental disorders is absolutely another facet of this issue that should be looked into. That being said, completely ignoring the gun aspect of the equation means leaving a large part of the problem completely unaddressed.
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Name one prohibition of an object that worked and didnt finance organized crime. You can't. Prohibition doesn't work. Even if it's a prohibition on half the gun types it's still prohibition and it will finance criminals.
Mental disorders is the only issue that solves the problem and protects our right to defend liberty.
