Birimbau said:
HappySqurriel said:
Birimbau said:
HappySqurriel said:
Birimbau said:
8Gb RAM is something natural for next gen, I don't know why people here are crying because of something like this, all Sony consoles, for example, had their memory increased by 16 times, with PS4 won't be different.
PS1 - 2MB
PS2 - 32MB(16x 2MB)
PS3 - 512MB (16x 32MB)
PS4 - 8Gb (16x 0.5 Gb)
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Have you also noticed that Sony's consoles have been getting progressively more expensive to manufacture? The PS1 was sold for $300 and (probably) turned a profit, the PS2 was sold for $300 and rumoured to take a $100 loss, and the PS3 was sold for $600 and rumoured to have lost up to $300 per system at launch ...
8GB of high performance DDR3 memory is selling for $200 to $300 today, and 8GB of high performance GDDR5 memory would be more expensive than that. Certainly, you can get 8GB of low perfomance DDR3 memory for very little but pairing that up with a high performance CPU and GPU would be like creating a high performance car with a 3 speed transmission.
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Don't you know that the cause of the loss was the blu-ray? each drive did cost $300-$350 for sony in 2006, if the BD would cost the current $50 or less back in 2006, SOny would have launched PS3 with losses. BD is not a big deal anymore, as I said, it costs less than $50 nowadays.
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It is possible that without the additional cost of the Blu-Ray player Sony could have launched the PS3 for $600 and broke even, but the system was still $300 more expensive to end users because of the escalating manufacturing cost associated with running a processing power arms race.
Sony's systems have gotten larger, ran hotter, and had higher manufacturing costs with each generation to produce the kind of processing power increase you're expecting. If they try to do it again, even without a new disc format the PS4 will be selling for $600 while taking huge losses again; after all, it would have 8GB of GDDR5 memory, a GPU from a $500 graphics card that uses 200 Watts of energy, and a gigantic custom CPU that uses 200 watts and is insanely expensive because its chip yields ar so low.
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PS3 in 2006:
Blu-Ray: $350
Cell: $230
RSX: $70
Memory(256 main + 256 vram): $50
Memory was the cheapest stuff of PS3 in 2006, stop crying right now, 8GB fast memory is possible today at reasonable cost.
The blu-ray was the main villain of PS3 in 2006, without it, PS3 would be cheaper and Sony wouldn't need to sell it under loss.
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Do you have a source for your numbers?
Looking back at iSuppli's production cost estimate from 2006 we have the PS3 60GB having a manufacturing cost of $840, with the RSX costing $129, the Blu-Ray player at $125, and the Cell Processor at $89.
http://www.edge-online.com/news/isuppli-60gb-ps3-costs-840-produce/
