VGKing said:
the_dengle said:
VGKing said:
the_dengle said:
lol. Yes, people like me. It's funny how a little over a year ago, Vita outselling the 3DS was an inevitability, and now it's "an unrealistic feat."
Of course, it is unrealistic now. Sony doesn't have to outsell the 3DS, and that's good, because they can't. What they do need is to sell well enough to stay afloat and continue receiving software support. They're not doing that right now. In order to do that, they need a price cut and a rebranding.
And sure the PS3 didn't need saving in 2006; that's why it got a price cut in 2007, right? Also note that I never said the Vita had to outsell the 3DS. It was the OP that stated Sony needs to make drastic changes to save the Vita.
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That was back when Vita and 3DS were supposed to be $250. Can you blame people for thinking Vita would outsell the 3DS? If 3DS didn't do a price cut maybe Vita would have...
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You should check the second article again. It was written in October 2011, two months after the 3DS price cut. And I recall at least a few VGChartz users, even after the Vita's launch, claiming it would ultimately surpass the 3DS*. As for the bolded, that's downright preposterous. The week before the price cut (25th week in Japan), the 3DS had sold over 3.5 million units. The Vita just passed that point a couple of weeks ago, almost a full year after its release. 3DS sales still would be been in the 15-20 million range at least, and it probably would have gotten a price cut regardless when the XL launched.
*And... by golly, one of the users springing to the defense of the Vita in that thread was you!
"Think of Xbox as the PSP.
The Xbox 360 as the Vita.
Be afraid. Be very afraid."
Can't imagine what you could have meant by that if you weren't claiming the Vita would be able to contend with the 3DS. And you said that not only well after the 3DS price cut, but after the Vita had launched in all major regions. I take it you are not still so optimistic?
Apart from all that, all you have to remember is that Sony themselves expected to sell three times as many Vitas as they will this fiscal year, which would have put them at least in the vicinity of 3DS's first year sales.
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From the same thread you linked to. This is my comment http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4444529
"Did we learn nothing with the PSP and DS?
The most affordable console always ends up selling the most. Nintendo would have to screw up really bad or Sony would have to have some genius marketing and tons of dev support for Vita to win this gen."
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And yet...
"I think Vita has a chance to outsell the 3DS. Not now, not in 6 months. Let's see where Vita sales stand in 18-24 months compared to 3DS."
"The point is that if Sony could sell ~60million PS3s(and counting) with such a horrible launch and high price, an $80 difference between Vita and 3DS won't be as much of an obstacle as the high PS3 price. Vita is affordbale despite many people asking for a price cut."
"Vita could outsell 3DS; the price isn't a huge obstacle" is a pretty big change from "the most affordable console always sells the most." And although it is only 8 months later, it is pretty clear where the situation will be in another 12. Optimistic suggestions for 2013 Vita sales are in the 6-7 million range, while pessimistic suggestions for 3DS sales are in the 13-14 million range. The sales gap by the end of next year will easily be in excess of 30 million units.
It was not my intention to turn this into a personal attack on your position. I'm just trying to show that it was SONY fans, and in fact Sony themselves, who set the expectations for Vita sales as equal to or better than the 3DS -- NOT Nintendo fans. As evidenced by the OP claiming that Sony needs to make "drastic changes" to compete with the 3DS.
