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Kasz216 on 11 February 2008
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CrashMan said:
Grey Acumen said:
catprog said:
Grey Acumen said:

2) God proves beyond your ability to deny that he exists. You now no longer have any choice but to believe that he exists. You've given up your free will.

You could still believe in something less likely (I.e you were hyponised you to see what is described).

Therefore free will is mantained.

Please read properly

 


There is always those who believe what is beyond the ability of a rational person to deny. There is still to this day a group of strict biblical interpretests called the flat earth society that believe, since the bible says jesus ascended to heaven, there must be an absolute up and an absolute down, and therefore the earth is flat. All those telling you its round are lying or lack all faith, and all effects that seem to show you that the earth is round with your senses are optical illusions.

There is always a choice to deny, but if truely knowing something to be true takes away free will we are all screwed. Do you exist? Well yes I KNOW I have to exist because I am experiencing this right now (though I am not sure i completely agree with that proof either.) Any way, you no longer have a choice to believe that you exist so therefore you don't have free will. Utter nonsense.


Do you really know you exist?  Couldn't you just as eaisly be a computer simulation?  Some character in a computer simulated world programmed for research or entertainment?  Plenty of people actually do believe this.  That it's highly likely they don't really exist and are a computer simulation.

The theory being that eventually we would become smart enough to create computers that can re-create human brains, and after that entire worlds, and even then universes.

If this did happen, there would be a crapload of such computers, and only one "real" reality.  Therefore mathematically, scientifically and logically there is very high chance we are all really just fake computer programs living inside a computer and that we don't really exist.