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Chandler said:

There is really a lot of goalpost moving going on again. If it suits the agrument suddenly only isolated regions count, or the PSV was never part of the conversation, only surpassing the Wii equals "not doomed". And I'm sure if it passed the Wii it would have been "bu-bu-but only surpassing PS2 means not doomed".



I don't see it. Very few people, if any at all, in this thread have claimed that Vita's future is bright or is "not doomed." (I'm not sure where you got that quote actually). Rather, people are noting the similar sales between the Wii U and the Vita in Europe. This isn't to show the Vita doing well in Europe. In fact, people seem to be agreeing with the consensus that the Vita is doing poorly in Europe. This comparison is to illustrate that the Wii U is also selling poorly in Europe. Tell me how this is moving goal posts. The Wii U's European sales are a legitimate concern.