Arm Yourself: The Ultimate Gun Factsheet

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killerzX said:

the2real4mafol said:

killerzX said:

the2real4mafol said:
I don't get it, you Americans are far too obsessed when it comes to your guns. 30 kids died because of how easy it is to get something that is designed to injure or kill.

Wherever you like it or not, what Obama is doing is the right thing to do. I don't know why people need an assault rifle like the AR-15 anyway, if you need a gun for "self-defense", just get a pistol or a baseball bat, that would work fine anyway. Screw the NRA!

no 20 kids died becuase somebody wanted to kill them, it could have been with any weapon. the deadliest school attack in US history happened without a gun, the deadliest attack on US soil happened without a gun. These kids are dead people of a murdered intent of murdering. and they may be alive today if it werent for laws making it near impossible for the to be defended by the adults around them.

also an AR-15 is not an assualt rifle. it isnt even high powered. the bullet it uses, is used to varment hunt, in many places its illegal to hunt deer with it because its too small of a caliber. the AR-15 only has a bad rep because its a scary black plastic and metal gun. if it had a nice wood grain to it no one would care.

and saying you should only have a pistol to defend yourself with is extremely naive. tell that to the korean shop owners that defended themselves with AR's during the LA riots. tell that to the police officers son that shot and killed home invaders with his dad AR, and saved himselve and his sister. there are many other stories like this. 

look at the viginia tech shooting, he killed 32, more than this one. did he use an AR, no he used 2 pistols.

I don't believe for a second, those kids would of been any safer, if teachers could carry arms with them. Maybe less would of been killed, but i'm only happy when no one dies. My problem is that the guns used for the crime where legally obtained, but there is obviously no way he was checked first because if he was sane he would of never killed anyone without a  motive at all, especially innocent little kids like that. Do you think that community would ever want to see a gun ever again? I wouldn't. 

But you think i'm crazy that people should only carry pistols? Well in my country, the police don't even want to carry that and yet society is just fine here. Except for the austerity measures that is, which is stupid in itself, but that is another topic

aside from your belief being unsupported by fact. At least having an adult that is properly trained with a gun, would have at least given them a fighting chance. i'd rather that than them being completely defenseless.

also he did not have his guns legally. he stole them. thats illegal. he transported them in public without a permit, which is illegal in CT. he took them into a school. Thats illegal. he brandished his weapon. thats illegal. he dischareged his weapon in a non designated zone. thats illegal. He murder 27 people. thats illegal. He possed a handgun without a permit before age 21. thats illegal. So with just that he committed 7 crimes. So no he didnt have his guns legally.

Also interesting tidbit. in the past 50 years in the US, in killing spress where 3 or more people died, all but 1 happened in a so called "gun free zone" why do you think that is? is it coincidence? or do you think most of the killers chose those locations for a reason? a reason of the wanting easy targets. also why do most of these wackos commit suicide when people with guns come in? this school shooting he commits suicide when the police barge in. the guy at the mall, commited suicide right after being confronted with a ccw holder gun wielding man.

why do you think the aurora colorado shooter chose that particular theatre, when he had 6 others right around him. could it be becuase out of those 7 theaters the only one that banned guns, was the one he shot up?

I though I read somewhere that he bought the guns with his mums ID, maybe not. 

I don't know why these gun men would go to a "gun free" zone to shoot up the place if they would inevitably shoot themselves. Just cowards I guess.

But a problem i find is that there seems to be loads of propaganda floating about on each side of the argument, I don't doubt for a second that money plays as big apart as the constitution itself

@mmmfishtacos I'm from Great Britain