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Mr Khan said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
Mr Khan said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
Mr Khan said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
Panama said:
I'm terribly sorry, but I laughed too hard at the garbage spewed in there. The Japanese Myth in particular almost made me fall out of my seat. IF YOU TAKE AWAY GUNS AMERICA STILL HAS 3 TIMES THE MURDER RATE (truly something to brag about) BUT LOOK AT JAPANS SUICIDE RATES. Sorry but this is non sequitur garbage and propaganda.

Though I am inclined with those that believe that America should not instil stricter gun laws, I just felt like pointing out that this document is bad and it should feel bad.


I think the whole point of that was just to show removing guns we would still have a high murder rate. In fact most of the gun murders would be replace with another weapon of choice. If someone wants to kill someone they are going to do it. If someone want to commit suicide they are going to do. Gun or not.

This then plays into the anti-gun argument, however. If removing guns wouldn't change the big problems, then we should remove guns, because at least there would be less deaths by accident and self-defense.

I don't see how this playing in the the anit-gun argument. People are going to kill no matter what. At least the person trying to defend them selfs has a better shot with a gun than a knife. Accidental gun death is so low it's not worth worry about. The only way it would work is to disarm everyone one. Including the police and how do you suppose we do that? There are 12 guns to every man woman and child in the united states. Good luck with that.

So what else should we remove? Knives, cars, gas and fertilizers, bats and Nails, 100 prof alcohol and rags?

I outlined my alternative once before. A "no-fault" period for turning in all guns, and following that, mandatory jail terms if you're caught with a gun: 10 years and $10,000. Per gun.

So not only do you want to ban guns but you want to turn owning one into a felony? Remember how well prohibition went? Or even the prohibition of drugs is going? Did it stop anything? No it made it worse. Turing innocent gun owners to to felons over your 'no-fault" (over night)  period isn't going to work out to well. Do you want another civil war? Cause that's what you'll end up with. And not to mention it's goes against  our constitution, So maybe we should just ban that too. What other rights do you want to give up?

Of course it would have to come with a constitutional amendment.

Time burns away all absolutes, including the rights outlined in the Constitution. For instance, the definition of "speech" vis-a-vis the use of money.

Then what happens if say, once china knows that our citizens are no longer armed. And want their money back. Our military isn't the only reason we haven't be invaded. I know it sounds funny. But it could happen without guns. Besides we are far from that day and age where we don't need guns. Do you know that one deer can feed a family of 4 for several months? So now you want to take that way too?