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killerzX on 20 December 2012
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Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
 

 

and SamualRSmith and I have already debunked his claim. and if you were to read or understand anything you disagree with, you would know this already. this fact sheet did not equate murder and suicide, if you were to read it you would know this.

Also no America does not have the highest violent crime rate. not even close. making things up again, are we?

and the point of this fact sheet which you have demonstrated a clear lack of understanding of what it says, does not only correlate gun ownership with crime. it does point out though that banning guns =/= equal lower crime. and more guns=/= higher crime. stat after stat after stat proves this

I did read it. I didn't see any debunking going on on your part; you're equating one very different kind of death with another.

I would be willing to agree that a gun ban is not going to necessarily lower crime rates.

Part of it is that i feel guns are a categorical evil, like all weapons.

thats not what the fact sheet is doing. first its saying you cant really compare Japan and US. they are so different (this is cultural among other things) 

second even if you take away gun homocides, the US still has 3x the murder rate. their point guns dont equal high murder rates.

3rd: Japan has a very high suicide rate, even with out guns, proving US doesnt need guns to do so, and if we combine the rate US and Japan are about equal. 

really this is basic reading skills