Arm Yourself: The Ultimate Gun Factsheet

[Mr Khan]

Panama said:

Mmmfishtacos said:

Panama said:
I'm terribly sorry, but I laughed too hard at the garbage spewed in there. The Japanese Myth in particular almost made me fall out of my seat. IF YOU TAKE AWAY GUNS AMERICA STILL HAS 3 TIMES THE MURDER RATE (truly something to brag about) BUT LOOK AT JAPANS SUICIDE RATES. Sorry but this is non sequitur garbage and propaganda.

Though I am inclined with those that believe that America should not instil stricter gun laws, I just felt like pointing out that this document is bad and it should feel bad.

I think the whole point of that was just to show removing guns we would still have a high murder rate. In fact most of the gun murders would be replace with another weapon of choice. If someone wants to kill someone they are going to do it. If someone want to commit suicide they are going to do. Gun or not.

I'm assuming the study was also looking at the correlation between suicide numbers and gun usage, which is a pointless study as you yourself stated people that wish to commit suicide will do so either way and has absolutely nothing to do with gun usage.

The thing is, showing that Americans have a higher tendency for murder without guns doesn't necessarily support their gun laws either. The findings of this document just feel nihlistic at times as opposed to taking a real stance to support Americans gun laws. I also wasn't a fan of the lack of more recent statistics, this document was published in 2012 after all, you would think they would have more recent data for UK and Aus instead of just 2006 unless I misread it. Surely editing wouldn't take that long.

To be fair, it does often take statisticians a while to compile this census-y stuff.