Mr Khan said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
Mr Khan said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
Panama said: I'm terribly sorry, but I laughed too hard at the garbage spewed in there. The Japanese Myth in particular almost made me fall out of my seat. IF YOU TAKE AWAY GUNS AMERICA STILL HAS 3 TIMES THE MURDER RATE (truly something to brag about) BUT LOOK AT JAPANS SUICIDE RATES. Sorry but this is non sequitur garbage and propaganda. Though I am inclined with those that believe that America should not instil stricter gun laws, I just felt like pointing out that this document is bad and it should feel bad. |
I think the whole point of that was just to show removing guns we would still have a high murder rate. In fact most of the gun murders would be replace with another weapon of choice. If someone wants to kill someone they are going to do it. If someone want to commit suicide they are going to do. Gun or not.
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This then plays into the anti-gun argument, however. If removing guns wouldn't change the big problems, then we should remove guns, because at least there would be less deaths by accident and self-defense.
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I don't see how this playing in the the anit-gun argument. People are going to kill no matter what. At least the person trying to defend them selfs has a better shot with a gun than a knife. Accidental gun death is so low it's not worth worry about. The only way it would work is to disarm everyone one. Including the police and how do you suppose we do that? There are 12 guns to every man woman and child in the united states. Good luck with that.
So what else should we remove? Knives, cars, gas and fertilizers, bats and Nails, 100 prof alcohol and rags?
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I outlined my alternative once before. A "no-fault" period for turning in all guns, and following that, mandatory jail terms if you're caught with a gun: 10 years and $10,000. Per gun.
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That is so ridiculiously over the top that I have to believe your joking. Espiecally since you want to suggest this for a position that has no factual statistical basis in reality, when there is in fact a weak correlation suggesting the exact opposite is true when you account for culutral differences.
That's about as reasonable as charging people who get abortions with manslaughter, on the basis that society is better off without abortions.
The reason the anti-gun movement died is mostly because they couldn't find one shred of evidence actually backing up a reason for a gun ban. Even the Brady people admit this.