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JoeTheBro said:
Griffin said:
Animals are not evolved enough to have complex thought. Lets look at the smartest great apes, at best they can point to a red truck or say they want food.


Maybe when they are only babies! Great apes are highly intelligent animals that can preform some cognitive tests even better than humans.

The tests they perform better in are short term memory tests or other ones of a similar nature.  They are able to recognize an order based on memorization not on complex thought of the situation.  From what i have heard,  humans could do many of the tests at the same level if given the same testing over time that was given to the apes.

Other tests given to the apes are just to be repeated the same way they were just shown to get to some food.  They then label this is solving a complex problem when nothing of the sort happened.  Other tests are solved by giving the apes two tools where only one tool can be used to get at the food, and many times they fail.  Example being a long stick or a useless block, the stick needs to be used to reach inside of a tube.

The smartest of the great apes that were taught to recognize 100's of shapes in order to form what could be labeled as a sentence only form basic ones and show no form of complex thought.  Example, Charles hungry apple.  They try to label this is the ape proving he knows his name"charles", what he is"hungry" and what he wants"apple".   The entire thing is a joke basically to get money so they can continue on this pointless research.