Evidence for the existence of God

[Andir]

Poeta said:

I don't know what is right or what is wrong, to us only God does.  Andir most atheist don't belive in God because of incovinence. You say we get the "easy" way, since where following something where told. People who do abortion say its "Because we can't afford the baby" "he will be misserable". I don't thing that is the case I thing its because its an incovenience. Andir do you have any pets? Do you take care of them? Do you know anybody who has any pets? Now do you help the poor? donate monthly? weekly? to foundations? If you take care of pets but don't help the poor.(In the eyes of God your already doing wrong) See me I love animals.I can't stand watching a animal suffer. But God tells me I should help people first, then animals second.

"If you cannot just accept it, you have failed and will never accept it."  At least that's what you're telling me."

Edit- No one can fail. If your really really really intesresting, give prayer a try, attend bible studies. Or just read the bible, give it a chance and figure why would God do such things. To me personally (Life is a test, Jesus wasn't here to help people, to help the good ones prevail, to end suffering, world hunger, pain. Jesus was here to save us)

"Except in this discussion, you're telling me that I will forever be lost because I'm discussing the idea and not getting the answers or proof that is needed.  And why can't I have that proof?"

No one is lost everyone can be saved. But let me ask you aquestion.

We can agree God works on mysterious ways. So lets say one day people around you(your family) start praying for you, asking God to give you faith . So one day your driving and BAM! you just went through a terrible accident, and became paralyze from the neck down.  But after the accident, your faith in God becomes strong. For the rest of your life your paralyzed but you belive in God with greath faith.

Now Andir is it unfair? That you had to go through a accident to belive in God (and have eternal life)  Or is it  fair? Since anyone can argue eternity=better than 80+years paralyze. Now thing about it, most people for thier inconvience will say its unfair and that God shoun't do that.

Paul(a person who murder christians, became a beliver after an accident causing him to lose his vision)

 

But you don't understand.  I refuse to believe in something that does not show itself.  How is me getting into an accident and losing all my motor functions considered "finding God"?  That makes no sense to me.

Now, theoretically, the laws set forth are good rules to live by to promote social growth and for humans to work together.  I'm not saying the idea isn't a good one.  It makes sense for the common good of humans and human kind.  But these laws could have been scribed by humans and passed along for generations as the word of God without question because they made sense.  But it doesn't prove that God exists.  It just proves that a set of solid rules promotes social growth and well being.  It however places us above animals who I believe are simply un-evolved representations of smarter beings. It puts a heirarchy on life, which I think is totally self destructive since I believe we are all made up of the same particulant matter and our actions are the circumstance of compounded patterns in our genetic makeup.  Don't get me, wrong, the human body is complex and unique.  The simple fact that we are talking to each other across the Internet is amazing, but it doesn't give me proof of some higher being.  It just tells me that we are gaining a grasp of what makes the world tick.  We are harnessing the power of atoms and using them for our greater good.

This is not what I'm arguing.  What I'm arguing is that this God figure people keep talking about has set these rules and somehow controls them like a judge.  This is convenient because it puts fear into the minds of those that would believe in an invisible creature that decides our final end.  It's like a death sentence in the modern judicial sentence.  If you break enough rules, you will cease to exist.  Except... with your interpretation, it's somehow higher than all of us, without evidence.  Like I said, it's nice and all, but there's nothing concrete in my eyes holding it to be the final word.  We will all eventually die, be buried 6 feet under and reconstitute our matter into the Earth from which it came.  The circle of the conservation of matter continues.  What I have a problem with, is the idea that we have a soul, and that somehow our actions will be judged by something that does not comply with the physical world's rules, but forces it's will on the physical world.

This is my problem with the idea of God.  No evidence.