Evidence for the existence of God

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The_vagabond7 said:
The natural world disproves the existence of any loving god. If god is all loving all wise and all powerful, why is the natural world the way it is? You can blame man's problems on man, fine, but if God was involved in creating the earth, he would have to be one sick twisted fuck to create a world of never ending fear, pain, death, decay, where for any single creature to live tens if not hundreds have to die. Think about that, in order for one thing to live, it has to take the life of something else. In order for it to continue to live, it must continue to kill. Not just kill, maim, murder, rip the throat out of young innocent weak creatures that die choking on their own blood in agony, wishing some one anyone would save it. If god is loving, powerful and wise he could've created a natural world where every living thing lives in harmony and feeds on sunshine and rainbows. But instead, every living thing lives in fear and pain, trying to survive just one more day at any cost, even if it means feeding off of it's own children. If god created that and said "it is good", he doesn't deserve worship. He deserves to be shot.

If there is any god, it has nothing to do with us, and doesn't resemble any human image of him. Honestly when it comes down to it, weak atheism, or agnosticism seem like the only logical choices. Believing in any man made god is ridiculous for any number of reasons, but when it comes down to it you have to make an illogical assumption one way or another.

There are only two primary configurations for anything. Existence or non-existence. If something exists or existed, it's because there was a cause. If something doesn't exist and never existed it's because of a distinct lack of cause. So the question is, why does a highly ordered universe exist? One of two completely illogical reasons. Either there have always been universes forever and ever without cause, and we live in one that happens to have a set of physical principles that makes life possible. OR illogical option "B" some ambiguous higher intelligence that exists without cause created a highly ordered universe for no discernible or comprehendable reason.

Either way, the Yahweh, JHVH, LORD, ect ect doesn't exist. And if he did, we should all be absolutely terrified that such a sick twisted creature is in control of the earth, and is deciding our fate.

However, I would never try to convince any one that this is true. Richard Dawkins and his ilk writing books like "God the failed hypothesis" and "The God Delusion" are trying to do something terrible and impossible. People believe in god, not because it is something logical that can be argued away, but because it embodies hope. We are animals that have grown to realize we are going to die, and despite all the beauty of life, we have to let go of it. And there will be pain along with the beauty, lots of it. And we need help with that to. To hope is human, and God for so many people just represents hope. What will Richard Dawkins and others arguing against god replace this hope with? Biology? Physics? Economics? Is that enough for people to put faith and hope in? I don't think so. Religion may get in the way of progress, and be used as a tool to create soldiers, but on an individual basis man has yet to come up with a viable alternative. Man isn't ready to get rid of god yet, and I wouldn't ask any individual to do so. Even if I think it's a ridiculous and horrifying idea.

 I can simpathize with your feelings. 

Here's a Prophecy regarding what the earth will be like under gods kingdom in the future. A situation that is widely reffered to as Paradise. 

Isaiah 11:6 "6 And the wolf will actually reside for a while with the male lamb, and with the kid the leopard itself will lie down, and the calf and the maned young lion and the well-fed animal all together; and a mere little boy will be leader over them. 7 And the cow and the bear themselves will feed; together their young ones will lie down. And even the lion will eat straw just like the bull. 8 And the sucking child will certainly play upon the hole of the cobra; and upon the light aperture of a poisonous snake will a weaned child actually put his own hand. 9 They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea" 

I think the very god you are thrashing, Yahweh or Jehovah, obviously feels the same way as you do, and promises that under his kingdom things will be different.