Final-Fan said:
Poeta said:
Everytime I post on a religion topic. I usually post it because people have curious questions about religion. And I post since it could help thier faith. I'm usually not the kind of person whos gonna tell you "YOUR GONNA GO TO HELL!!!" just a person who wants to help. But I realize a lot of people here don't want to know anything. Just feel like arguing. For reals Imma stop posting here after this
"believe that that guy was ever a evolutionist lecturer" well he is
"ALL of the examples of 'creatures that defy evolution' can be easily explained by evolution" Thats wierd... Didn't he say he made question to the evolutionist and the evolutionist did not have an answer to him. Like the woodpeckers tounge?
"I am certainly not a biologist. I have no knowledge of biology above GCSE level, but even I could explain how some of those creatures evolved." Hey thats not a bad idea. Maybe you should make your own documentary or get people to sponsor your video "I that defy creatures that defy evolution". You would put an end to this lying progapanda, to this creationist!!! Since offcourse you got the answers to them."
"I suggest you read a couple of books by Richard Dawkins, or just any book on evolution to get a better understanding of evolution." Ok I'll do that, but next time give one in general, and what parts of the book that helped you understand evolution
"Then make up your mind on whether God designed us or if we evolved." Eh once I read it. I'll let you know
"Notice that the vast majority of Human eyes are not perfect. This suggests to me that an omnipotent God has not designed them because they are not perfect. The imperfections in the eye are to be expected if the eye has been evolving over thousands of years, thus backing up and providing even more evidence for evolution. "
This is confusing. Just because the guy said our eyes are perfect (In a sence of how its form)(And compared probably to most animals, like our brain) it proves evolution because most people have poorsight, which you believe has been evolving over the years. (despite all the things today that cause people to wear glasses) . Now if someone is born blind, blindsighted or has any other kind of eye dieasses they disaprove God? If i poke my eye out i disaprove God? If I die, and my eyes turn to dust I'm dissaproving God? Are our eyes supposed to live forever? Should we be having all kinds of dieasses on our body but not our eyes?
So yea.. if people where really interested in God (note not religion) they woun't be posting on furroms. Instead of posting, they would be researching on thier own. But I guess no one is interested. | You say "Well he IS". This may be a slip of the tongue (metaphorically) because he is presently (apparently) and ANTI-evolutionist speaker. If you meant to say "well he WAS" then you ought to have provided a source.
An anecdote of "well I asked this guy to explain it and he couldn't" means nothing. Assuming the "guy" in question was even trained at all instead of some poor sap on the street who like most people accepts evolution (sorry not watching the whole video just to find out) -- even in that case there's no reason to expect EVERYone with any scientific training pertaining to evolution to be able to explain how a particular trait of a particular type of creature came to evolve. Not every scientist on the planet can be an expert on woodpeckers. The important thing is whether someone who IS knowledgeable on the (alleged) evolution of woodpeckers can aswer that question, which they certainly can and have done, including specifically in response to this challenge.
Many people have done debunkings of this sort already. Maybe not on this particular speaker (although I wouldn't be surprised) but certainly on his arguments.
I was expecting you to come back with something like "well God chose not to give us perfect bodies because we're imperfect" because although I would question why God gave some of us defective parts it makes a lot more sense than "BUT IF I POKE MY EYE OUT GOD STILL EXISTS". Also I believe that you are incorrect about our eyes being the best; birds of prey (falcons etc.) have ridiculously good eyesight. And then there's the insanely good vision of mantis shrimp. |
I did say "And compared probably to most animals" but yea your right.